Sometimes I think those of us who say we want to restore the “ancient order” of the New Testament church don’t really want to bring the church back to its most primitive state. It is much more comfortable for us to bring the church back to the almost-ancient order of things–perhaps the end of the 1st century–rather than the day of Pentecost.
Yes, we give lip service to wanting to rewind the clock on church history a bit. Hence the catch-phrase “Restoration Movement” (although I prefer the name Stone-Campbell Movement, for reasons I’ll write about later). But few would be comfortable going all the way back to the beginning.
What do I mean by that? Well, consider that by the end of the first century, some pretty horrible practices had already been slipped into the church. To rewind history back to about 96 A.D. still gets us back to a point where the churches of Asia, described by Jesus in his Revelation to the apostle John, taught deviant doctrines and had outright anti-Christian practices taking place within their congregations. I don’t think that’s the “pristine state” we want to restore the church to.
If we rewind history back to 55 A.D., we still end up with a divided church. The apostle Paul had to write to the Corinthian church about that time to discourage them from getting drunk at the Lord’s supper (so much for the idea that Christians can’t drink wine), and forming factions around Paul, Apollos, and other popular preachers. In an odd sort of way, those looking for a “pattern” for the sectarian church we find today can find it in Paul’s first letter to this congregation. I guess it should make us feel slightly better to know that they had a problem with unity and sectarianism, too.
But what would happen if all Christendom rewound the clock back to that pristine day of Pentecost, when the first gospel sermon was preached, making converts to The Way? These people realized they had just crucified the very person who had come to free them. That’s what made their change of heart so powerful and world-changing.
You see, social movements start in their ideal state and decline through subsequent generations of leaders. Martin Luther’s reformation fits this model. So does Alexander Campbell’s; and Christianity itself no different. The subject matter chosen for the inspired epistles, written for the purpose of correcting already-errant practices in the ekklesia of that era, emphasizes this point.
Truth Bomb: The pattern for our ideal church is found somewhere in the days immediately following Peter’s first gospel sermon on the day of Pentecost, and NOT later in the first century after the epistles were written. Believers in that primitive state were undivided by opinions, brought together in koinonia solely for the love of their redeemer, each other, and their newfound Way of Life.
Of course, God used the apostles to reveal divine solutions to the problems those early Christians encountered, but it was all with the goal of restoring that primitive state of harmony in the church exhibited during those first days, months, and years.
Not one fact was added to the saving gospel of Jesus Christ after its first presentation by Peter. Did you know that Christians were saved and thrived as a community for about two decades before the first epistle was penned? Stanton doesn’t tell you that, do they?
This means that everything revealed in the apostolic letters, while God-breathed and important, should be seen as attempts to elucidate principles and eradicate human error, rather than attempts to create an appendix to the gospel or a new codebook of legislation. Jesus didn’t nail one codebook to the cross, just to institute another one.
I would say the epistles are not so much “additive,” but “restorative.” Leave it to fallible men to take uniting, uplifting doctrines and turn them into tools of division and factionalism. Men are really good at dividing, but not so good at uniting.
The factious spirit is the ultimate “innovation” in the church that we must purge out. We are called to to return, not to the almost-ancient order of things, but to the truly ancient, primitive order of the church. This is what Alexander Campbell, Barton Stone, and so many others reformers in the 19th century were trying to articulate. This “ancient order” is the state where Christians knew each other as brothers, not as hyphenated Christians or half-brothers alienated from each other to forever work apart in the great cause of Christ.
We do not have to agree with our brother on a list of creedal matters in order to work with him side by side. If he is our brother, he is worthy of our mutual love and edification. The correctness of our opinions does not justify forcing them them upon lesser (or greater) intellects. This was, at one time, the powerful restoration plea of the early 19th century. As Alexander Campbell once said, “It is cruel to excommunicate a man because of the imbecility of his intellect.”
Those of us who are the heirs of that legacy here in the 21st century might find that level of tolerance a bit startling due to the current factional climate, particularly if you’re fresh out of the Stanton sect or some other militant faction. It might be a little like hearing “cowbells in church” as Alexander Campbell might say.
But I thank God that the pendulum is swinging away from the divisive zeitgeist that infected the 20th century Restoration Movement. I sincerely hope that a new restoration movement–returning, not almost, but fully to the primitive concept of the brotherhood of all believers preached on Pentecost–will take hold in my generation.
We need to truly understand, with no caveats, that the Lord himself adds to His church–not to a particular sect–those who would be saved. He alone strips the sectarianism and self-seeking from the hearts of people with diverse backgrounds and intellects, and allows them work together as one. What God has made clean, let no man call common, unclean, or unworthy of our fellowship. If God has called him, who am I to reject him? That is the truly “ancient order” of things. That is first century unity.
I agree at not having small differences divide, Kevin, however, on the issue of alcohol, the other aspect, that is rarely discussed, is that if something is a stumblingblock for another, it is best to avoid it. For those who abstain from alcohol, no man will become an alcoholic because of them. But, if someone reads your post, buys a wine bottle, gets tipsy, and then becomes a drunk, would you not also share some culpability? I cannot see how you wouldn't. Not everyone can have self control in that area, and we are paying a fearful price for it.… Read more »
I don't want to go round and round on wine again. You've accepted the premise that we must adamantly teach and enforce the "best" choices that we ourselves *think* people ought to live by. I view that as tyranny, and antithetical to scriptural unity. We keep doing what we're doing, we'll keep getting what we're getting. Telling people how they should behave in matters that are clearly conscience is no different than Stanton. Sure, you might pick different things now than you would have a year or two ago to enforce. But that's all. It's the same sin of oppression… Read more »
Yes, but your approach is sophism. The idea that there is no absolute truth, and feelings are equal to objective facts. Man was not designed to lead with feelings. https://larouchepub.com/other/2003/sci-techs/3035sophism.html This was an issue that predates Stanton, and even Christ. It's why we have the First Amendment, because those who rely on feelings are constantly trying to silence those who use objective truth as a reference. We've seen that often on here, and it has never been discouraged by you. Romans 6 says either we are a slave of sin, or of God. You seem to think that is some… Read more »
I agree with you Kevin 100%.Telling people how they should behave in matters that are clearly conscience is no different than Stanton. You will forever go in circles in this topic with some & we will probably keep hearing about the "straw man logical fallacy" BS as well until one can actually step away from Stanton. Thank God we are all individuals who can make our own decisions in life in this great land of the free. Monte you would probably fit right over in the Middle East. They would probably call you a king seeing how your mind is… Read more »
Not sure why you don't think I believe in objective truth. It's objectively true, for instance, that the Bible shows many examples of acceptable drinking of alcohol. It is also objectively true that the Bible teaches not to over-indulge in it. It is an opinion to say that because it represents a potential danger, that we must teach the hardline stance to stay away from it at all costs. I prefer to teach what is objectively true, meaning to speak where the Bible actually speaks, and be actually silent where it's silent. And I'm using this subject, not to hash… Read more »
Monte, you said that "Ketcherside was dealing with minute matters, not large moral issues that history has long ago decided." I disagree. Jesus prayed for the unity of all believers, and Ketcherside's message is that the reason we've never realized that unity is we've been too busy to agree on *what* to believe, rather than in *whom* we believe. Ketcherside's argument is a meta-argument. He steps higher to look at the big picture, rather than trying to iron out all of the "little" differences that divide Christians so often. I have a book laying around somewhere entitled "Where The Saints… Read more »
You can download a copy of the book here –
https://digitalcommons.acu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1150&context=crs_books
Spot on, Kevin! You hit on the very thing that disturbs me most about Merie's group-the rules they institute to "err on the safe side", and to "avoid the slippery slope". They institute these rules, and then can't understand why members don't seem to have any judgment or common sense in their lives.When we take away the freedoms that God has given us, namely the right to work out our own salvation, then how are we to learn judgment? If I merely have to memorize rules, then where is the learning? Where is the applying God's word to my own… Read more »
Lynn, I checked out the copy of Where the Saints Meet you linked to, and this illustrates my point precisely. That copy was published in 1957 and did not have the sectarian classifications that later editions came to use. ME = Mutual Edification (no paid preacher)NC = No ClassesOC = One CupEtc. The copy I saw as a young man was published probably sometime in the 80's. You could look up every sectarian classification of COCs in existence, defying the very principles of the unity movement from which we came. This shows the downward spiral our "unity movement" entered into… Read more »
M- what constitutes the moral law? Please give me a couple of examples.
AnonymousApril 5, 2019 at 10:15 AM It's written on our conscience. Romans 2: 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) Reason and logic lead to it. Most of the moral law is common sense. Those who object to it the most, are often those who love their own vices… Read more »
BTW, for those interested, General Omar Bradley of World War 2 fame, and Ronald Reagan were both raised church of Christ.
https://www.wnd.com/2019/04/what-this-5-star-general-said-about-aggression/?cat_orig=education
I could be wrong, but I thought Reagan was raised in his mom's Disciples of Christ church. The Disciples were the group started by Alexander Campbell. They have unfortunately become very progressive in modern times. I think as an adult, Reagan usually identified himself as Presbyterian.
One thing that sort of stuck out to me after so many years was the story of one sister in Merie's church who told me the scripture where there were factions (I am of Apollos, etc.) in which Paul chastised them all for being divided is the scripture that convinced her Merie's church was THE ONE. I never understood why that scripture was that impactful to her in that way. Not even when I was in. And now, I realize that despite their differences Paul was asking them to be united in that they still had the same gospel and… Read more »
Yes, their twisting of that chapter on unity to say the opposite of what Paul meant is a very distinctive doctrine of the SCOC. It took me a lot of years to realize it, because if you pluck a verse out of its context without understanding the point, it sounds convincing.
Unanimity ≠ unity
Unanimity = tyranny
It is impossible for two people with independent consciences, intellects, and maturities, to come to exactly the same conclusions without coercion.
"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."
"When two people think exactly alike — one of them isn't thinking."
Great quote Anon April 9, 3:51!!
Anon 3:51 & AFC – Exactly!
M Long, great points. Yes these versus used in nonmember classes 1 Corinthians 1:10-13. Paul letting the Corinthians know as you said do not be divided in Christ’s teachings and the testimony of Christ that was confirmed in them. Simply follow Jesus and not these others who may of baptized them. MM dunked me and got me wet ughhh. I never thought anything of it other than when asked I know who dunked me. I’m not seeing at all how Merie could’ve thought what she thought. Of course Christ isn’t divided. They say the religious world is divided and we… Read more »
I see there's a PP on Facebook again.. No picture, with 11 friends and some friends from El Cajon and San Diego.. I know darn well she would never go without being on Facebook so she can snoop.. she deactivated or deleted her last one when we all talked about her being on Facebook and being active
How does one honor their father and mother when they disagreed with Stanton, and Stanton cut off all ties between them and their parents? I said, 'Sin when repented of, can be rapidly and completely healed by God'. Stanton withdrew from me over this. In my Bible, God's ability to heal is limited only by the individuals ability to believe it possible, as Jesus demonstrated many times by healing the spiritually and physically sick. But, Stanton had other ideas. It's been difficult for me. I still deeply love my parents, and appreciate all they did for me, but not being… Read more »
Very sad! As you grow older as I have you realize family is everything. Sometimes they do some very hurtful things to one another. Your story so sad! Prayers for you. Prayers for healing before they die and that God will reveal the truth to them.
Montesquieu, Convincing your family members who still are in the SCOC to go along with their directive of not having any kind of contact with you is the only weapon they have, but it is a considerable one. Not to besmirch your family, but those willing to obey any such orders should be utterly ashamed of themselves, not just for allowing themselves to be mind-controlled through cult-like methods, but also before God, who in no way approves of, endorses, or authorizes the spiritually pathological behavior of this sect, and of course, their Ruling Triumvirate of KS, GP, and TC. The… Read more »
Montesquieu, I feel for you my friend. Stay strong! Anon 3:01 You are right on the mark!
Monte: You're an inconvenience to the lot of them. Has anyone else noticed that those who are an inconvenience, whether not able to do works, question too much, refuse to go along with certain things, are easily withdrawn from? Merie, for all her talk of being a Christian, started a very DEMANDING cult. There is no real room for the variety of people that Jesus himself spoke about as needing him. They are too weak. They are burdensome. Monte, there have been times when some want you off this blog. I have been on occasion on this list, frustrated by… Read more »
Proverbs 24
30] I went by the field of the slothful, and by the vineyard of the man void of understanding;
[31] And, lo, it was all grown over with thorns, and nettles had covered the face thereof, and the stone wall thereof was broken down.
[32] Then I saw, and considered it well: I looked upon it, and received instruction.
[33] Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep:
[34] So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth; and thy want as an armed man.
The Best Sermon on Biblical womanhood, from Lori Alexander at the Transformed Wife. This is one of the best sermons on biblical womanhood I have ever heard preached by Pastor Rick Appleton in December 2025. What I am going to share isn’t taught by many, sadly. “The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things. That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own… Read more »
Prayers for TS, CG, and DV over the loss of their sister.
She had a heart devoted to pleasing God, and is there anything better to devote one’s life to?
I wonder who said this? “”The Jew steadily works to ruin women and girls so that he can break down the barriers of blood on an even larger scale. It was the Jews who brought the negro to the Rhine. The motive behind this is clear and his intention is always the same. He wants to destroy the hated White race through bastardization. He continues to bring negroes in as a flood and force the mixing of races. This corruption puts an end to White culture and political distinction and raises the Jew up to be its masters. A racially… Read more »
Thank you to Kevin for cleaning up the spam that was ravaging the website. It’s very difficult to have a website that is free of bots and spam and that follows First Amendment rules. This is a rare website that has all of these. The First Amendment doesn’t allow lies, slander, libel, profanity, racial slurs, pornography, or threats of violence. The First Amendment gives five rights: The right to grieve, the right to religion, the right to assemble, the right to the press, and the right to speech. Since it’s nearly impossible to find any website online without chatbots in… Read more »
In 1994-1995, I attended Solano Junior High School, and I had the privilege of having the best teacher I had in my entire K-12 school experience. Mr. Richard Wright. When he first walked into the room of the 9th Grade GATE (Gifted and Talented Education) English class, I didn’t know what to think. He wore a jean shirt, had a ponytail, had a beer belly, and looked like a White man in a motorcycle gang. But, as I learned many times since, you can’t judge a book by its cover. I had the best experiences in his class, and he… Read more »
Let’s talk about women and higher education Written by Eric Conn on X First, the argument that women need higher education so they can raise godly sons actually goes back to the French Revolution period. Proto-feminists and revolutionaries sought to destroy Christian families, so they used this nefarious line often: “A woman needs to have a university education outside the home if she is to raise godly sons.” This was a subtle maneuver. What they really wanted was to brainwash the girl whilst away from her Christian father’s authority. This is why Marxists and Bolsheviks targeted and infiltrated education. Women… Read more »
God doesn’t need numbers for good to triumph. One man with God is a majority. But it’s disappointing that fewer than 100 men in a nation of 340,000,000 are exposing Talmudic Jew Pharisees publicly. When women run marriages, church, and the nation, disorder rules. Sad to say, but the men in Stanton who allow women teaching are submitting to women, not to God. And the women who keep speaking in Bible classes are under the authority of the devil, not God. Pretty hard to comprehend that Merie wasn’t under God’s authority at all when she decided to defy God’s order.… Read more »
Every woman who teaches in Bible classes with men present is causing God’s word to be blasphemed.
That’s a whole lot of blasphemy in Stanton over the last fifty years,
Titus 2
3] The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
[4] That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,
[5] To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
“If you disagree with Stanton,” TD, “why do you still go?” I’ve heard that question multiple times over the last two decades. It’s because, it’s natural to love, even when others are in error, and the more we love, the less we will be loved, we the Apostle Paul said. But, true freedom lies in realizing our greatest enemy is our own sins. Once we realize that, we become far more merciful with others, and, we become far more patient, forgiving, long suffering, and magnanimous. For, has not God dealt patiently with us when many of us struggled with weaknesses… Read more »
If the saying “how much of your money is for the brethren?” Is just a guilt trip (which is one type of manipulation) would the appropriate response be “if you don’t work then you don’t eat?” What other response could be used to refute the guilt trip manipulation?
If a Christian man left a loaded weapon laying around his house where he had little children who could play with it and his wife allowed it would you call the police on both the husband and wife and report them for child endangerment? What if the Christian man kept pet scorpions in his house where his little children could play with them would you call the police and report them for child endangerment? Should Christian women allow this dangerous behavior around their children knowing that they too could go to jail and have their children taken away?
It is taught that alcoholism is not the problem but rather the symptom. The symptom of a defiled conscience. The use of alcohol to numb the negative emotions of guilt and shame, is common among men and when the guilt is removed in the waters of baptism the symptom of alcoholism stops. Is therefore drug use the problem or the symptom? Is therefore the behavior of gluttony the problem or the symptom? Is another sin usually committed in secret the problem or the symptom?
A man who hides his identity and talks impudently, insolently, and impertinently, a common problem with millions of those who are functionally illiterate and ahistorical, is not worth taking seriously.
It’s ironic that the man who talks the most about pride and lust on this site is likely the one with major issues with both.
I don’t see righteous men in scripture hiding and sniping from the shadows.
A coward is despised by himself and others.
If the saying “there are certain things that people can’t stand” is in reality coercive control what other abuses are thinly hidden by euphemism? If constant criticism, mockery, and ridicule are negative teachings methods what are positive teaching methods? If turning your brethren into merchandise is in reality financial exploitation of the brethren by demanding free vehicle repair for everyone that asks, free moving services, free use of your pickup truck, and any other demand that allows the leader and his favorites to live on easy street while others have great burdens placed upon them then is this a righteous… Read more »
Hiding behind anonymity much TF? You post under Truth Defender which is most definitely posting anonymously. To Anonymous: pick a different Anonymous name and TD will hopefully shut up about people writing anonymously. Fat chance, but it’s worth a shot.
I just love being criticized for being anonymous by an anonymous account. Hypocrite much? Everyone in Stanton knows exactly who I am. So I’m not anonymous. This is by design. You don’t have degenerate antifa members trying to doxx you to send their criminal mobs after. I’m not afraid of that though. All I know is the Jewish bankers are the greatest criminals in human history. However, I prefer they attack me on my website, and that they don’t come here and confuse themselves badly trying to understand Christianity and Stanton, as one homosexual man tried to do as he… Read more »
VOLTAIRE – (LETTERS FROM 1771-1773) “WHY ARE THE JEWS HATED THEY EITHER HAVE TO CONQUER EVERYBODY OR BE HATED BY THE WHOLE HUMAN RACE” “THEY ARE SIMPLY, THE BIGGEST SCOUNDRELS WHO HAVE EVER DIRTIED THE FACE OF THE EARTH” “I WOULD NOT BE IN THE LEAST BIT SURPRISED IF THESE PEOPLE WOULD NOT SOME DAY BECOME DEADLY TO THE HUMAN RACE* Franz Liszt “The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are dwelling will have to raise the question of their wholesale expulsion, a question which will be one of life or death, good health or chronic… Read more »
I have no problem with people writing anonymously; its when other people who are anonymous, so-called ‘truth defenders’ blast an anonymous writer for being anonymous. Hypocrite much ‘truth defender’?
Yeah, but I’m not anonymous. Every one in Stanton who has been on here for two hours and who listens in Bible Class knows exactly who I am.
So, perhaps do research before charging onto a website to begin lecturing people on standards you don’t follow yourself.
Physician, heal thyself.
Sure, justify your anonymity, hypocrite chicken.
Not the story I heard about why you lost your agency, hypocrite chicken!
Or shall should i impress everyone and call you a magnificently self-important specimen of moral inconsistency, possessing all the righteous indignation of a crusader, provided absolutely nothing is required of him personally beyond clucking loudly from a safe distance!
I’ll stick with hypocrite chicken. Bbbbbaaaaaakkkk babababa baaaaaakkkkk
Yes, you’re a lazy thinker, you don’t listen to both sides before drawing conclusions. If jumping to conclusions were an Olympic Sport, you’d win a Gold Medal. Why is it this website is full of anonymous critics? I’ve been on here thirteen years, where have you been? Maybe study on conceit. If you find what I say to be false, prove it. Other than that, kindly stop wasting everyone’s time. Hundreds of others just like you have been worn out and have left. Having no intellectual depth, after your emotions are exhausted, which takes a few weeks at most, you… Read more »
What a joke your self-importance is. Members of the Merie Weiss version of Christianity run far and fast away from this site and especially far and fast from your garbage and self-important ruin of a once decent website.
Yeah, I don’t think I’m important, but I think the truth is.
And who knows who you are or what your motives are.
Sneering and jeering while anonymous, so productive and brave.
You have the same problem not a few in Stanton have, poor research, poor critical thinking, but you love to scoff at what you don’t understand.
Did you come on here to demonstrate your ignorance for the world to see?
No wonder you hide.
“It’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and to remove all doubt.”
Mark Twain
To anyone who has had the misfortune of reading my comments I humbly apologize for the words I have written because I now realize I am wrong about everything and worse, I am a hypocrite.
Haha, wow, the determined attacks of the ignorant to tear down what they don’t understand.
When you can’t persuade and convince, violence and slander are the tools of the loser.
A lying deceiver, your Father the devil loves you.
I no sooner get done calling out the Synagogue of Satan, when a determined defender of lies and deceit comes on to champion the cause of the Devil.
Amazing the lengths those who hate objective truth will go to. And as we’ve seen over the past few months, there are dozens. Some spammed the Website with dozens of comments daily. Then the website was spammed with porn, and Kevin thankfully removed both. Just as soon as it gets back up, Arizona is back with his familiar passive/aggressive approach. Likely he was raised by a woman teacher and never learned courage. This is a common problem of the sons of the women teachers. They frequently resort to slander or violence when they have differences of opinion. They are incapable… Read more »
The brilliant Martin Luther on the Jews.
Despite Stanton’s attacking nearly every other Christian sect, they have never mentioned the most dangerous one of all, the only one the Bible calls the Synagogue of Satan.
I love this! Finally, after years of futility, memes are able to be posted. Next best thing is when multiple memes and links to internet articles can be posted.
https://davidduke.com/
Oh wow! Now links can be posted too! This will be epic! “To write is to wage warfare” Voltaire Let’s start with first things first. Over twenty years ago, I was poking around the Fairfield, California library, looking for a good audiobook. If I remember correctly, I was tired of listening to alternative music and sometimes rap in my car. This had to be around 2003. I was trying hard to stop listening to the music, but I knew I wouldn’t be able to stop until I put something in its place. And then it happened. An event that changed… Read more »
Patrick Henry’s quote is the reason why America is collapsing today. And yet, according to the ahistorical Merie, Christian’s don’t get involved in politics. That was likely because she had a gnats’ comprehension of history and politics. So, many people scorn what they don’t have. Merie, in her wisdom that was definitely not descended from above when she decided to teach men, thought Jimmy Carter was a good president. So blind was she. She had no idea that Jewish bankers have controlled every president from Woodrow Wilson. And her idol Jimmy Carter? He would go on to support homosexual marriage… Read more »
In a church where women teachers run the show, and they have been since Merie, there is no order. The order you do see is not of God. Men are not the final authority in their marriages. Women teachers cannot teach this because they never practiced it themselves. When men aren’t the final authority in their marriages all other order collapses. The marriages and church are now dominated by women’s easily manipulated feelings, and the women are plenty clever at hiding how the media influences their opinions, but their opinions are introduced onto the church as church policy, and you’ll… Read more »
The problem is not his uncleanness, his uncleanness is the symptom. The symptom of mental illness. His irrational fear of Jews, his explosive and uncontrollable anger and his obsessive and compulsive posts are clear behavioral indicators of a much deeper mental illness. At this point he needs professional help in the form of ridlin or lithium medication.
Well, no sooner do we address the years of slander from Arizona, when he’s at it again. Blind and malevolent, and likely motivated by race rage, he brings his moral midgetry back to the site, as if he hasn’t been thrashed enough. He cannot win in an intellectual argument, so he resorts to ad hominems, and the lies he has filed the website with. There are few figures he hasn’t lied about. I am one of many. Bitter, unmerciful, unforgiving, the antithesis of what a Christian is to be, he comes on here to murmur and complain about mostly spurious… Read more »
Also, Arizona’s hatred is likely racially motivated. And he’s an excellent poster child for why the races cannot peacefully live together. How do you live around someone who hates you, has nothing good to say about you, plots against you, and constantly tries to oppose what you say with irrational arguments? The same person carefully studies to find any weaknesses, and then seeks to exploit these to destroy you. Arizona’s tactics are those used by countless women teachers in Stanton. Vicious, subtle, ruthless, unmerciful, oppressive. He likely was raised by HC in Spring Valley, based on his earlier comments. If… Read more »
May 2024
Sacramento, California Jewish Mayor Darrell Steinberg erupts when Jewish wrongdoing is exposed.
https://old.bitchute.com/video/fglLc7jrJl3Z/
When women are out of their place, and most have been in Stanton since Merie, they will savagely try to use men’s weaknesses to gain power for themselves. Instead of winning men with kindness and meekness, they seek to wage war on men, to use men’s faults to tear down men. This has ruined many marriages in Stanton. Because we see many wives and teachers who have huge problems with grudges and unforgiveness, who know they are commanded to forgive. Yet, though they refuse to do this, justifying their disobedience in marriage and in the church by bringing up issues… Read more »
The more one studies manipulation tactics the more one will understand the tactics of false teachers. One manipulation tactic is called “reversal” where one simply takes what an individual says and uses it against them, no scripture to support their argument, no precept, no principle, no example, just a simple reverse. I say that Jesus is the son of God to which the false teacher will reverse “he thinks Jesus is the son of God!”. In their reversal their ignorance is revealed. Stanton has always taught against the use of psychotropic drugs as the simply mask the symptoms and do… Read more »
The word “objective truth,” which means something true for all times, in all circumstances, and for all people, never enters into your thinking, consideration, or judgment. That’s because you don’t study history and are unable to compare your experience and knowledge with historical knowledge. Instead, you keep using psychiatric terms like “mental illness” and “manipulation.” And you are a master manipulator yourself, because you refuse to address thousands of facts laid out. Still, you insist on living in the comfortable world of subjective truth you lazily dwell in, refusing to be bothered with uncomfortable facts which destroy the fairytale you… Read more »
If one does a search of forced child labor in cult groups many articles appear. When a church fails to teach their men to work who becomes the providers? The women and the children. In the stanton COC there are leaders who don’t work much and become opportunistic parasites freeloading off the labors of others. If you are responsible and pay your bills you are mischaracterized as rich and become the target of these irresponsible men. The request for loans, free auto repair, free home repair and more drown the responsible individuals from individuals who could work and support themselves.… Read more »
You don’t stop, do you? You hide for a good reason, you love to throw out your poorly reasoned, ahistorical opinions, but you can’t bear to be scrutinized. Part of your hatred, which is likely based on race, is that you evil surmise and put everything in the worst light possible. Only miserable people do that, and since your lying is sin, you are very miserable and wish to spread your misery by tearing down others. Hatred and lying are two of the sins that make a man a coward and afraid. This is why you hide. It’s good to… Read more »
Additionally, from what you said, you come from a troubled childhood, and I’m sorry to hear that. That is no excuse for your atrocious behavior here. It doesn’t appear you were ever held accountable, and you’re used to playing the victim and getting your way, as you’ve been desperately trying to do here. Pulling the race card, claiming you were cheated by the church, claiming the church took your wife from you, claiming you were oppressed. We never hear about the sins you were guilty of, but we see them. You can barely complete a post without another falsehood coming… Read more »
Arizona is just like tens of millions of Americans; they have no idea who their real enemies are. Malcolm X was right: the media will have you hating your friends and loving your oppressors. Myron Fagan was a brilliant Jewish playwright who wrote dozens of books exposing his fellow Pharisee Jews. One was the short “The Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)” which is a brilliant expose. It’s posted here and well worth the read. Part of Arizona’s problem is he doesn’t read much, and so his critical thinking skills are atrocious. When confronted on this, he resorts… Read more »
The root of Arizona’s hatred. Aquinas was a righteous and an astute man, and didn’t have to deal with women fighting to speak in the church. Jews love diversity, because while the races fight, as we see Arizona full of hatred, and incapable of even addressing any points I make, so enslaved by hatred is he, Jews control the nations. It’s no coincidence that my unscriptural withdrawal was done in a church that was overwhelmingly not White. I often wondered to myself how I could be withdrawn from and excommunicated, which is rather hateful, when I had done nothing wrong… Read more »
I had happy memories of my childhood in Stanton, but though I have no complaints about the church overall or any Christian specifically, my time in Garden Grove was much different from my time in Vallejo. It wasn’t anyone’s fault; it’s just that Garden Grove was White and Vallejo was diverse. Never mind Stanton; one can easily see that America was far better off when it was 90% White in 1960, and Arizona can’t argue against this, so he uses lies and deceit to attack the truth he can’t oppose. Talmudic Jews stole White tax dollars, trillions of them, since… Read more »
This racial hatred for Whites is everywhere you look.
Here is an article today from the Jew NY Post on the small California city of Piedmont, which has 11,000 residents and is 70% White. This doesn’t sit well with Talmudic Jews and their diversity thugs.
https://nypost.com/2026/08/10/us-news/cancel-piedmont-movement-gains-momentum-in-oakland/
Since no Americans in the past sixty years were taught about Greek history, which America is patterned upon, here is a great course, “Famous Greeks.”
https://archive.org/details/famous-greeks-j-rufus-fears
Why is learning Greek history important?
Well, you can learn a lot from their mistakes.
About hubris.
A common problem of women teachers, men who submit to them, and the Jewish community overlords.
A Jewish homosexual man, Magnus Hirschfeld, wrote the first book on “racism.”
https://ia803202.us.archive.org/6/items/Magnus-Hirschfeld-Racism/Magnus-Hirschfeld-Racism_compressed%20%281%29.pdf
Arizona’s impotent rage is what happens when someone who has been lied to since birth, and trained carefully to think they are a constant victim, is actually held accountable for the first time in their life. I’m not the first one who held Arizona accountable for his nonstop lying, the other objects of his spleen, GP, DS and others also held him accountable, and he’s furious about it to this day. He’s been throwing a temper tantrum for years on here, with sly and subtle, deceptive and debauched comments. The hatred comes from despair, because he has an inferiority complex… Read more »
If a woman teacher can get away with not submitting to her husband and teaching other men in the church, then why can’t all the wives get away with not submitting to their husbands and teaching the men in church? This was the standard Merie established. Stanton has been a matriarchy from the beginning, and matriarchies have never lasted in human history, Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Persia, Greece, Rome, all were White, and all were patriarchies. It’s tragic how White women were lied to by the Jewish media, which cheated them out of their heritage. America had miscegenation laws until 1967,… Read more »
If you can accept the reality of child forced labor in the SCOC, that is child slavery in one household then one has to ask how widespread is this evil in the churches? Are the girls forced to babysit and then have their earnings taken away to support the family because the men don’t work much? Will leadership now conduct an inquiry throughout the brotherhood and sisterhood to see how many children are forced into labor due to irresponsible men? Will leadership start to teach that the man is to be the provider for the home and not the women… Read more »
Count on the deluded one to come up with the worst possible interpretation of events. Discontent with himself, he seeks to spread this discontent everywhere he goes. FYI, the income tax and the 19th Amendment were designed by Jewry to make sure men couldn’t make enough on one income to support a wife and children. Just 500 years ago under feudalism, a man could work four months out of the year and easily support a wife and 10+ children. Your major problem is you have a hard time listening and learning, but you love to inform the world of your… Read more »
Though Talmudic Jews are by far the biggest crime operation in the history of mankind with their control of the Federal Reserve, media, and all drugs and human trafficking, there are no statistics on their criminality.
Since they control the media, they adroitly hide their own criminality carefully, while constantly going on about the White “crimes” of “racism,” “slavery,” and “stealing muh Indians’ land,” paving the way for their next robbery/murder against the White majority in America.
Bezmenov was a former KGB agent who defected to America.
His words are prescient, and they apply to Stanton, though not really in the moral realm.
The four hours of interviews with him are well worth it. He’s an expert at laying out how people are brainwashed by colleges and the media.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2gazp9Ev7Ars/
Every American citizen should watch “Europa, the Last Battle.” It’s twelve hours long, but it’s the other side of World War 2, and it’s banned on YouTube and Facebook. You will learn more history on the past century than you did in 12 years of K-12 School. Shocking and fascinating all in one, and well researched. I’m not 100% behind it, but it makes far more sense than the lies the schools teach about how the Germans woke up one day, despite being the friendliest nation on earth for the Jews in 1900, and decided they couldn’t stand Jews and… Read more »
Knowledge and wisdom are seldom obtained without suffering, sacrifice, and solitude. This is a major issue for Stanton because, with women teachers running the show, as they have been from the beginning, they do not value these three traits nearly at all. Women are all about relationships and communication. Ever really listen to a woman speak from her heart? Listen carefully; if she talks for thirty minutes, you’ll frequently hear her say, “I feel like…” Men are often feminized, and do frequently say this as well today. So she’s operating on feelings, not logic and reason, which was not God’s… Read more »
Proverbs 22
10] Cast out the scorner, and contention shall go out; yea, strife and reproach shall cease.
This is hard to do on websites. You’d have to block Arizona’s IP address.
But we see what chaos a scorner and a scoffer like him can cause.
Utterly uninterested in objective truth, and blind to do much. Interested only in his victim narrative.
He has the hide of a rhinoceros when it comes to criticism, and is capable of going years without remedying his obvious fault of lying and evil surmising.
Los Angeles Lakers just purchased by Josh Kushner, the brother of Ivanka Trump’s husband, Josh Kushner.
His partner is Bob Iger, former CEO of Disney.
The Kushner’s and Iger are Jewish.
Ranking the victim groups you aren’t allowed to criticize.
1) Jews
2) Homosexuals and transgenders
3) minorities, especially the Black community.
4) Women, especially non-White women.
You are free to criticize White men all day long, as the Jewish media is setting the stage to rob and exterminate Whites in America.
This is a painful topic, but it needs to be examined because the devil is in the details. Can women teachers teach their daughters to be feminine? Can they train their sons to be wise, virtuous, and courageous? We can examine the results over fifty years, and the answer is a resounding NO, commonly. I don’t want to talk about individual sons and daughters of the woman teachers, because though I’m withdrawn from, I still have a high regard for them, and many I grew up with. But we must acknowledge that the words meek, quiet spirit, and feminine are… Read more »
If you’re a preacher in Stanton, are you a man of God, or are you a man-pleaser who has the fear of man and who bows to women teachers whom God commanded to be silent in the church? Any rational observer knows the latter is the case, sadly. It doesn’t take courage in Stanton to defend the feminist ideology of women teachers. From the very beginning of Stanton, swift and harsh punishment was meted out against any man who disagreed with women teachers. The men who are preachers in Stanton today have unquestioningly cooperated with women teachers who are disobeying… Read more »
What Jews control. https://www.bitchute.com/video/uZydkokxcGry
March 12th, 2024
Taken out of Vallejo, CA city council meeting for criticizing Jews.
To find out who rules over you, find out who you aren’t allowed to criticize.
https://old.bitchute.com/video/Zlz5I25qY1pL/
Hard racial truths. Can’t fix problems if we can’t talk about them.
Ventriloquist: One who speaks in such a manner that his voice appears to come from some distant place. This has always been fascinating, and quite a useful skill to have. But, if you were raised in Stanton, you saw ventriloquism frequently, because the preachers were effectively mouthpieces for the women. This is what happens when women are allowed to speak in the classes; they eventually seize control and ruthlessly attack any who cross them. The men in Stanton must speak opinions that the women teachers like, or they won’t be speaking at all. The wives have ruled the marriages in… Read more »
Wow, do some more digging, and some authors think the mulatto officer Ned Young was behind the entire mutiny on the Bounty.
https://archive.org/details/whocausedmutinyo0000madg/page/1/mode/1up
Without faith, a man cannot please God. Hebrews 11:6: Faith requires courage. Without courage and the ability to cast out fear, a man cannot truly love. So, despite Stanton saying they have love and other churches don’t, love requires obedience to God, and women teachers have been disobeying God out of fear since Merie. So, Stanton has never truly known love, because perfect love casts out fear. Some of the greatest sinners become some of the greatest saints because, when they cast out the fear that sin brings, they can experience true joy and true love. 1 John 4:18 There… Read more »
Amusing. So was the fraudulent subscribing my email to over 200 blogs, all of which emailed me for confirmation which I just ignored. The fraudulent activity on my debit card was easily stopped and reversed. The calls and texts from people all over the U.S. and Canada asking for my name, address, and date of birth was also ignored. I don’t know where on the dark web my info was posted but it was just a minor annoyance. Let’s look at the example in scripture of those who treated their brethren badly. The Jews at Jerusalem who mistreated Jesus were… Read more »
You came on here lying and making pretensions to knowledge you didn’t have. You reap what you sow. No one loves a liar; God even hates you. You never learned to be content with God; you seek approval from outside yourself, and then complain that you’re not loved. To be treated like a King, Act like a King. This is after years of your evil surmising and lying, and now you hope those of us who tell the truth are going to be destroyed. You are just like the Jews in 70 AD. They rebelled against God, and you do… Read more »
Notice that your comment uses “I, me, or my” 6 times; my prior comment mentions me not once. Your attitude is subjective. How you perceive things, how you feel about them. Mine is objective: how does God see them? What is the objective truth? This clash is the inevitable battle between the objective and the subjective. The former is selfless, and looks to the good of others; the latter is selfish, and looks to the good of itself. Selfish behavior is sinful behavior. Everyone is guilty of it, but few notice it and try to change it. As long as… Read more »
From William Pierce’s Is it any wonder that, although virtually every American with a high school education has either read Dostoievsky’s Crime and Punishment or his The Brothers Karamazov (or both), his Diary of a Writer has been quietly consigned to oblivion by the controlled educational and publishing establishments in this country? The only printing of Diary of a Writer currently listed in Books in Print is one issued by a small, specialty publisher (Octagon Books) for sale to libraries and priced at a prohibitive $47.50. That price tag ought to keep it safely out of the hands of curious… Read more »
In 1943, German forces discovered the mass graves of thousands of Polish officers and intellectuals in the Katyn Forest—victims of the 1940 NKVD massacre ordered by Stalin.
Joseph Goebbels’ propaganda film Im Wald von Katyn documented the site. The Nazis immediately invited the International Red Cross and foreign press to examine the evidence.
The Soviets (and much of the wartime West) blamed the Germans. The truth only came out decades later: it was Stalin’s NKVD.
This rarely seen film is now available with English translation.
https://gab.com/Zander9899/posts/117102318774389814
Who controls the media?
It can be pretty dismaying and overwhelming to learn that nearly every media source is controlled by Talmudic Jewry. Every influencer too.
https://messanonews.com/who-owns-the-media-2/
Flock Schmock. New Israeli Spy-Tech Can Hack Every Cam in U.S
https://insighttoincite.substack.com/p/flock-schmock-new-israeli-spy-tech?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=733r0k
“The Jew and his bank dominate everything: money, education, and the press, but above all communism, since through this means he seeks to destroy Christianity, Europe, and all of civilization. When the Antichrist comes, the Jew will be at the head of everything.” -Fyodor Dostoevsky. A Writers Diary, March 1877
“The Riddle of the Jew’s Success” published in English in 1927
Written by Theodor Fritsch (1852-1933)
https://henrymakow.com/2026/08/theodor-fritsch—the-genocida.html
Jewish controlled government to build first Pacific coast shipyard in 80 years.
Getting ready for World War 3 with China.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/775318240797761/permalink/1366886701640909/
The Imitation of Christ
Thomas a’Kempis
https://www.sandroid.org/GutenMark/wasftp.GutenMark/MarkedTexts/imitation.pdf
Prayers for the family of JJ on the passing of her mother. Prayers for their comfort and may God console them. JJ was very hospitable, generous, and upheld righteousness as she knew how. She raised many righteous children. Spent many happy days at her home as a child.
The SPLC has always been paid by Jews, and here they do a huge article saying that noticing that Black on White crime is a problem is “racist,” then excusing it by saying its due to “poverty.”
https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/biggest-lie-white-supremacist-propaganda-playbook-unraveling-truth-about-black-white-crime/
Men have been trained by the media and schools that women’s judgment is always correct. We are not to question women, and so men learned not to question Merie or any of the women teachers, and we men found out the hard way there were going to be severe consequences if you did question the unbiblical concept of women teachers. Women’s judgment is often flawed, in reality. You frequently see women condemn their righteous husbands and defend their sinful sons. A wife who cannot obey God and her husband doesn’t love God or her husband. Children can’t be loved if… Read more »
And of course, whenever God’s objective truth is told on the order for women in the church and in marriage, you rarely fail to have subtle rebellion, with women listing off legitimate grievances of sinful and wicked men. They use this as justification for why no woman should obey her husband, and why women don’t need to stay silent in church. It has been said many times on here that a wife doesn’t need to obey a sinful command. And God will deal with tyrannical men in the church and tyrannical husbands. Look what happened to Nabal. Abigail didn’t whine… Read more »
How many children in Stanton had to suffer the consequences of wives refusing to obey God and stay silent in the church, and wives who refuse to admit their husbands are the final authority? God is forgiving, but he only forgives the impenitent, not those who are defiant and rebellious and who refuse to repent. A wife who won’t obey her righteous husband DOES NOT love her children. A husband who doesn’t love his wife doesn’t love his children either, but loving your wife DOES NOT mean accepting her rebellion against Gods order that the man is the final authority… Read more »
*God forgives the penitent, not the impenitent, the contrite, not the defiant.
“The jews sacrifice their children to Satan. They are worse than wild beasts. The synagogue is a brothel, a den of scoundrels, the temple of demons devoted to idolatrous cults, a criminal assembly of jews, a place of meeting for the assassins of Christ, a house of ill fame, a dwelling of iniquity, a gulf and abyss of perdition.” — John Chrysostom “If you call [the synagogue] a brothel, a den of vice, the devil’s refuge, Satan’s fortress, a place to deprave the soul, an abyss of every conceivable disaster or whatever else you will, you are still saying less… Read more »
Have you ever met a person that hates you no matter what you say or do, and who tries to find out the worst about you? They make it their life mission to attack you, heedless of their own faults? This is often the result of envy and jealousy. It’s very much alive on this website, and if you know what to look for, it’s very apparent. Although, those with it are often blind to the fact. Envy, jealousy, pride, conceit, appear very ugly to others, but often are cherished by those who possess them. People with pride and envy… Read more »
Some of the worst stuff said about Christianity by Talmudic Jewry, but when women are out of their place, it will be difficult to impossible for the objective truth to be found and taught publicly,
A woman in her feelings is extraordinarily unlikely to come across objective truth. Women frequently have difficulty with critical thinking because their knowledge, compared with that of male experts on historical topics, is often inferior.
Consider: I’m unaware of any public exposure ever on Talmudic Jewry and its modern agenda by Stanton, but I’m punished for seventeen years for telling the Biblical truth.
The Gospels were written about Jesus, a single, unmarried man, with no children. Thirteen books of the New Testament were written by the Apostle Paul, who was single, with no children, and likely died a virgin. The New Testament has 27 books, so if Paul wrote 13, he wrote nearly half of it. Now, aren’t all Christians told they have the Holy Spirit? Yes, they are. They are told not to grieve it, and to avoid impenitent sins, which is how the Holy Spirit can be lost, or one can be damned at death. Isn’t this the same Holy Spirit… Read more »
” I equate the Jew with the devil; to me they are practically interchangeable. I think the Catholic Church did also. I think the entire concept of the devil is based on the Jews. For example in the New Testament, the devil took Jesus to a high mountain, and he showed him all the kingdoms of the world and he said l’ll give you all of this if you just bow down and you worship before me, right? And Jesus refused. The point is, those who can offer you all, you can have all the money in the world, all… Read more »
It’s very disturbing to witness the under-40 generation, often raised on the internet, getting into who knows what. And many got into drugs and alcohol, and their minds massively lack self-control. They are prone to uncontrollable rage, frequently, and dangerous violence. Their brain doesn’t process consequences very well, so there is very little holding them back from violence, and many don’t understand the First Amendment is backed by the Second, so that when violent and ignorant young thugs want to try to use force to silence ideas they don’t like, there is an equalizer. The Fear of God is lacking… Read more »
If a woman won’t obey her husband, she’s a rebellious and defiant woman, and she isn’t under the authority of God or any man. And yet, this is the sad spectacle in Stanton, where I haven’t heard a single woman in Stanton’s history say her husband is the final authority, and to live cheerfully submitting to him. What a nightmare: when women are out of their place, they cause God’s word to be blasphemed. The rebellious women are commonly into victim mode, where they will constantly complain and pretend they are being abused, even as they abuse God by ignoring… Read more »
Jewish Supremacism
An excellent 22 hour audio book by David Duke, who is libeled by the media and hated for speaking objective truth.
https://odysee.com/@DigitalAlexandria:5/JewishSupremacism_DD:1
The Bolshevik Revolution was the greatest human slaughter of all time. Through starvation, torture, executions and gulags, the Bolsheviks persecuted and exterminated nearly 66 million Christians.
And who were the Bolsheviks?
https://gab.com/Grendel_Lives/posts/117139797604385442
Goddess worship This was a huge problem in the Old Testament. When God warned against idols, many times they were of a lascivious nature, and there would be very lustful activities surrounding them. The tribes the Jews came into contact with in the Promised Land commonly practiced fertility cults that worshipped Baal, Moloch, and Ashtoreth. Associated with these fertility cults were lascivious rituals and baby sacrifice. Do we have Goddess worship today? Yup, it’s in another form though. Now, we are supposed to adore and “worship” women teachers beginning with Merie. You don’t find that in the New Testament, but… Read more »
Most of the average person’s beliefs, and this applies for most of Stanton, especially the women, are shaped for them by powerful people with money. “Very few ever stop to think that almost everything they believe about the world exists only because very rich, powerful, evil people paid large sums of money to have those views promoted endlessly; by media, academia, politics, and even religions. There are barely any exceptions to this in the modern world. From the Modernism of Industrialists in the Gilded Age, to Darwinian Evolutionary ideology, to the Rockefeller overhaul of Public Education, to Marxist Biological Egalitarianism… Read more »
When you study world history, you discover that the most prosperous, peaceful, and powerful nations all had one ideal in common. They valued the rights of every individual. That’s why the Founders of this nation, who were very historically minded, placed the First Amendment right at the top of the original Ten Amendments to the Constitution. It is the right of every individual to speak, although the First Amendment has been badly perverted by Talmudic Jews to legalize birth control, abortion, homosexuality, and pornography, none of which are protected by the First Amendment. All of this just happened in the… Read more »
Jews fight to keep diversity out of Israel, but they also fight to bring diversity into White countries.
https://gab.com/FrancisMeyrick/posts/117146546390513539
An 18 year old jumped to his death off a cliff over a cell phone dispute.
His father fell off with him, and his mother was so distraught, she jumped a few moments later.
No child under 18 should have a cell phone.
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2026/08/23/video-india-teenage-boy-and-parents-die-in-fall-from-cliff-amid-iphone-dispute/
Gary, Indiana, 76% Black
Violent crime rate of 898.3 per 100,000, compared to the national average of 379.
https://www.opencrime.us/cities/gary-indiana
gary indiana not having power is an amazing story of diversity
>entire city council is black
>every electric company executive is black
>black residents can’t stop shooting at vehicles working to restore power
and they all blame racism for going without power for so long
Have you ever noticed how many single people there are in the church? In many churches, the number of single people is double the number of married couples. This didn’t used to be the case in America. Marriage rates have gone down tremendously, and this is a big problem in America, not just in Stanton. In Stanton, there are many whose spouses aren’t in the church, and there are some married couples who are living apart from their spouse, even though both are Christians. PERCENTAGE OF US WOMEN MARRIED BEFORE AGE 30 BY DECADE 1950s 93% 1960s 91% if 1970s… Read more »
It must be remarked on the wonderful women in Stanton who obey God and stay silent in the church, even though they are surrounded by many bad examples of women who keep right on speaking in Bible classes when God told them not to. It’s very hard for a righteous woman to obey God and stay silent in Bible classes, to resist the natural tendency of women to seek attention, and to avoid the bad examples of women who, out of ignorance, constantly share in Bible classes. Also, it’s hard for a righteous woman in Stanton to obey her husband… Read more »