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"This needed to be said Kevin, thank you. I believe you are getting to heart of the problem in the church. Instead of a Christian being allowed to exercise their own conscience, the conscience of a few people living in South Carolina and California is forced upon the entire brotherhood." ~Anonymous

"Great blog, Kevin. I'm originally from Stanton (I remember you being a young boy there). I Spent almost twenty years in the church seeing many of the things you speak about but keeping them in the back of my mind, and doubting my own feelings that something wasn't right.

"This constant gossiping was so confusing because it was OK for teachers to talk about people, but no one else to even question actions of a teacher. Being outside of that influence and away from the constant intimidation, it is so much more clear. There was no love or understanding. I'm sure most, except for the leaders, know something is wrong if they would just be honest with themselves. I regret so much putting my children through this more than I regret putting myself through it.

"I'm just glad I left. No need for being bitter toward anyone because it was my choice to be there and stay there. Keep up the good work." ~Loraine Forshee

I have read every word of this blog… I spent many hours/days reading… Feeling so sick inside… I felt so grateful to find this blog." ~Anonymous

"I left the group because I realized that what the group taught and what God teaches were often-not always-vastly different. I had to make a choice; stay out of fear, obligation, because of relationships, or leave so I could continue to follow Christ. I left. You know, one thing I heard A LOT while in the group is that “fallen away ones” are always longing to come back into the group.” At the time I believed it, but I just haven’t found it to be true! If it were, there would be plenty of people flocking back, and it isn’t happening. I have been in contact with quite a few who have left, and not one of us has thoughts about going back. Ever." ~Debby Stevens

"What’s ironic is that we point these things out to them only for them to ignore, dismiss and scoff at the blog both publicly in talks or sermons, and among themselves in secret. For you leaders and members of the SCOC who still read this blog, it’s one thing to dismiss the dissenters, but when you have people in your own ranks parroting the SAME EXACT PROBLEMS we talk about here (some of whom don’t even read the blog yet they see the same things we do), it may be time to consider your ways instead of having “unity” (conformity) meetings trying to ignore it." ~Advocate for Peace

"I too am a current member in 'good standing' in the church. I read the blog and I know of two other current members who also read it. I am sure you're wondering why in the world I would still be attending after reading all of this. Honestly, I am weak and just don't have the courage to leave because of family members who are still involved. Because of the threat of withdrawal for murmuring it's impossible to ask others what they think of the blog posts and videos. I am sure I will leave someday, I'm just not quite ready." ~Anonymous

"I'm currently a member in "good standing" in the church. I read the blog, even though its frowned upon. I can't begin to tell you how closely the comments and personal testimonies align and match what's happening in the church. You read something here, and it opens your eyes to that behavior now. so that when you see it happening, you instantly think about who it happened to here on this blog, and you know the damage it causing." ~Anonymous

"I’m not giving up on God like they believe I’m lost now. I’m so glad I found this blog. It helped open my eyes to what I was a part of for TOO long." ~Not going back

“The members of the church have a right to question and ask for Bible answers from those who are doing the preaching. But this is considered almost tantamount to heresy by the preachers of today; and if a member persists in such he is usually slandered and called a trouble-maker… We should know our Bible and we should be ready and willing to take a stand for the truth. We are commanded to ‘contend for the truth.’ But this can hardly be done seeing that the church is ignorant and the preachers are content to have it so. Individually and collectively we should take scriptural stands upon all subjects…” Merie Weiss (Brethren Letter, 1967) More Merie Quotes

“I blush for my fellows who hold up the Bible as the bond of union, yet make their opinions of it a test of fellowship; who plead for union of all Christians, yet refuse to fellowship with such as dissent from their notions. Vain men! Their zeal is not according to knowledge, nor is their spirit that of Christ. Such antisectarian-sectarians are doing more mischief to the cause and advancement of truth, the unity of Christians, and the salvation of the world, than all the skeptics in the world. In fact, they create skeptics.” Barton Stone

"Someone told me here just recently that, Gary, do you realize what’s happening, under cover? People are coming out and expressing what it is that they feel, their disdain and contempt for what you believe. I’ve got to know how to respond. And I know how I respond. That’s the basis of this lesson. I refuse. I refuse, to the uttermost of my being to dignify the absurdity of the questions and the challenges in which it is that people will present. What I mean by that is that I will not honor, they are not worthy of my consideration. … [M]y whole estimation was to not give it a nickel’s worth of consideration. But I want to give you what it is how I deal with things like this. How I respond. Because I don’t. I don’t." Gary Preman

Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingIt has taken me years to unlearn the evil lessons I was taught in the SCOC. From the example of the behavior of my teaching preacher I learned that the way to deal with any problem, big or small, was…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingA Christian has to ask themselves am I following a follower or am I following the leader, that being Jesus Christ? In Matthew 25 Christ taught a parable of ten virgins and like all abstract teachings…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingMr. Curious you should stop by the house next time you're in the Phoenix area. 12309 n 127 lane El Mirage AZ 85335. I am sure the fellowship would be sweet.
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingKnowledge is an interesting thing. Knowledge is amoral, that is it is neither good nor evil but how one uses it that identifies the individual as good or evil. Knowledge can be weaponized and used ins…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingWelcome back Mr. Curious. It is a dubious claim you are putting forth of record setting, have you ever examined the greater number of posts you yourself have written?. I wonder why someone would choos…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingProverbs 22:24 gives some very good advice. Many worship the idol that is anger. Anger makes one feel empowered over others and when you have a teaching preacher who is short tempered he sets an examp…
Curious Chris on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingThat is a record. 18 of 19 total comments by one person, Arizona. My goodness. Will respond when able. Am traveling America at the moment. Was just in your state of Arizona last week. Nice place. Am n…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingOne topic that needs to be mentioned is that if economic governance. When one becomes a Christian they make God their provider and as Paul the Apostle alluded it is God that gives the increase and as…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingMany lessons I have heard in the SCOC were not bible based lessons but rather personal experience lessons with no biblical basis whatsoever. Consider this lesson from the motorcycle salesman in Spring…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingWhat did I learn in my 12 years in the SCOC? That it is acceptable to discuss sexually related topics such as masturbation in front of children. Today I see that as perverted. I leaned that it is not…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingIs anyone available to rebuke me? I miss the old days in the Church of Christ in Phoenix where I would be told in no uncertain terms how stupid I was by the teaching preacher, saying "he is a fool, so…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingHaving an invisible enemy like Satan requires great intellectual work to identify and then counter and defeat him. Satan is like a roaring lion is a metaphor which when applied gives one understanding…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingObstruction of justice occurs when people are discouraged from calling the police when they see a crime happening such as I experienced when I was told by my teaching preacher not to dial 911 when I w…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingIt is, in my opinion, the one true church. The blood of Christ is there, I did have my sins washed away in the waters of baptism and I did receive the indwelling of the Holy ghost, which I still have…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingFor the man that gleefully says "Bad news" it does not bother me to be chastised because in Proverbs 3:11-12 Solomon has taught me that the chastising of the Lord is an act of love and not hate. The l…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingThank you for your post. I consider the teaching of Christ "by their fruit you shall know them" Matthew 7:15-20 or more to the point by their lack of fruits ye shall know them. Lets look at the final…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingIs every leader in the SCOC a predator or a free loading parasite? No, I don't believe that, but there are enough bullies and perverts that attention needs to be paid to the behaviors of leadership. W…
Lynn on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingThis brutish attitude and treatment is why I left. I could not see how people in position could treat people who look up to them for help so badly. I tried to get counsel from one teacher and was answ…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingIdolatry is common in the SCOC with the substitution of Merie Weiss for Jesus Christ. When I was first baptized I was not given a bible but instead the church lesson by Merie Weiss. Now some will say…
Anonymous on Why Stanton’s view of unity is self-refutingWhat is required of a man to become a preacher in the SCOC? Not much, consider this example: we in Phoenix had a man return from a ten year absence and had in absence married a woman who was not a Chr…

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