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"I have read every word of this blog… I spent many hours/days reading… Feeling so sick inside… I felt so grateful to find this blog." ~Anonymous

"What’s ironic is that we point these things out to them only for them to ignore, dismiss and scoff at the blog both publicly in talks or sermons, and among themselves in secret. For you leaders and members of the SCOC who still read this blog, it’s one thing to dismiss the dissenters, but when you have people in your own ranks parroting the SAME EXACT PROBLEMS we talk about here (some of whom don’t even read the blog yet they see the same things we do), it may be time to consider your ways instead of having “unity” (conformity) meetings trying to ignore it." ~Advocate for Peace

"I too am a current member in 'good standing' in the church. I read the blog and I know of two other current members who also read it. I am sure you're wondering why in the world I would still be attending after reading all of this. Honestly, I am weak and just don't have the courage to leave because of family members who are still involved. Because of the threat of withdrawal for murmuring it's impossible to ask others what they think of the blog posts and videos. I am sure I will leave someday, I'm just not quite ready." ~Anonymous

"I'm currently a member in "good standing" in the church. I read the blog, even though its frowned upon. I can't begin to tell you how closely the comments and personal testimonies align and match what's happening in the church. You read something here, and it opens your eyes to that behavior now. so that when you see it happening, you instantly think about who it happened to here on this blog, and you know the damage it causing." ~Anonymous

"I’m not giving up on God like they believe I’m lost now. I’m so glad I found this blog. It helped open my eyes to what I was a part of for TOO long." ~Not going back

“I have tried the pharisaic plan, and the monastic. I was once so straight, that, like the Indian’s tree, I leaned a little the other way. And however much I may be slandered now as seeking “popularity” or a popular course, I have to rejoice that to my own satisfaction, as well as to others, I proved that truth, and not popularity, was my object; for I was once so strict a Separatist that I would neither pray nor sing praises with any one who was not as perfect as I supposed myself. In this most unpopular course I persisted until I discovered the mistake, and saw that on the principle embraced in my conduct, there never could be a congregation or church upon the earth.” Alexander Campbell

“I blush for my fellows who hold up the Bible as the bond of union, yet make their opinions of it a test of fellowship; who plead for union of all Christians, yet refuse to fellowship with such as dissent from their notions. Vain men! Their zeal is not according to knowledge, nor is their spirit that of Christ. Such antisectarian-sectarians are doing more mischief to the cause and advancement of truth, the unity of Christians, and the salvation of the world, than all the skeptics in the world. In fact, they create skeptics.” Barton Stone

"Someone told me here just recently that, Gary, do you realize what’s happening, under cover? People are coming out and expressing what it is that they feel, their disdain and contempt for what you believe. I’ve got to know how to respond. And I know how I respond. That’s the basis of this lesson. I refuse. I refuse, to the uttermost of my being to dignify the absurdity of the questions and the challenges in which it is that people will present. What I mean by that is that I will not honor, they are not worthy of my consideration. … [M]y whole estimation was to not give it a nickel’s worth of consideration. But I want to give you what it is how I deal with things like this. How I respond. Because I don’t. I don’t." Gary Preman

Martha Long on Leading our families out of the wildernessI am not surprised. I feel like ones who have come back for the most part did it because they have no self-control. Some of the ones I knew, didn't seem to be able to function at a basic moral level w…
Debby Stevens on Leading our families out of the wildernessKevin, all I can say is WOW! Well done! Martha, I too joined the group because I was looking for God. I wanted a relationship with Him and didn't know how to do that. I left the group because I realiz…
Martha Long on Leading our families out of the wildernessI see your point and can understand at a certain level why people would stay for those reasons. But I wonder if that's not the ultimate "carnal" choice. I guess I was at the point when I first joined…
Kevin on Leading our families out of the wildernessThank you MLong. As to why people stay, it is not always a lack of courage. I would love for people who are physically in, but mentally out, to share their own reasons for staying. You bring up a good…
Martha Long on Leading our families out of the wildernessYour description of the damage to families is on point. I really don't understand how some from Merie's church are reading this, are likely admitting to themselves that their families are at risk as d…
Striped fish on The unwritten rulesSeeking, I enjoy reading your posts. You have good insight and make your points clearly. Thanks!
Kevin on Spiritual Abuse: Are You a Victim?I'm glad you came around. It takes a certain amount of self-confidence to leave when they've been telling you seductive lies for so long. That's why I liken it to "detoxing" from chemical addictions.…
Lynn on Spiritual Abuse: Are You a Victim?Kevin, I can relate to what you are saying about continuing to attend while they are subjecting you to their brand or corrective teaching. I stayed for at least 2 years like that and I saw what it was…
Kevin on Need Help?FYI, I added a couple of new sidebars in the left column...What Readers Say, and Popular Threads.
Kevin on Ryan Messano’s StoryLolol
Kevin on Spiritual Abuse: Are You a Victim?Yes, time will tell. :-) Perhaps God called you to this task, like he called me to mine. Maybe we each have our parts to play. But my concern is for your spiritual growth, which is going to be almost…
Lynn on Spiritual Abuse: Are You a Victim?This list is all so correct. The last few years that I was there I was under a lot of this. This is far from what Christianity is supposed to be. I've shared, already, a lot of what I went through the…
Martha Long on Spiritual Abuse: Are You a Victim?AFP, well thank you for posting it. It opened up a great search term for me and I discovered that spiritual abuse is found not only in Stanton, but also in many religions. I have a sister who was simi…
Shannon on Ryan Messano’s StoryI don't know any of those you mentioned..I was in Charlotte from 1996..graduated HS in 02' & started my own life then & never looked back :) I don't have fond memories of my time...wasn't a go…
Shannon on Ryan Messano’s StoryCharleston is where I'm from..will always be home for me! I've been in Charlotte since 95'..
Ryan Messano on Ryan Messano’s StoryThat's great, PIMO, that you don't own a television. But, when you comment on the Founders, you certainly have not carefully researched them on your own, that is apparent. So, if that's not called bei…
Ryan Messano on Ryan Messano’s StoryMy heart is quite blessed, Shannon, thank you. Used to live in the South. Was a beautiful place. Charleston will always have a fond place in my heart. AM, JC, KC, L?, TP, EP, TP, TP, TP, and the entir…
Ryan Messano on Ryan Messano’s StoryI meant more experienced, not age wise, LOL. I'm not married because women are indoctrinated to go to school, get a job, and look upon kids as a burden. I refuse to marry a woman like this. 100 years…
Ryan Messano on Spiritual Abuse: Are You a Victim?Yes, thank you Martha, the article was very well done, past differences notwithstanding.
Ryan Messano on Spiritual Abuse: Are You a Victim?The wilderness was to test the Jews, and kites fly against the wind, not with it. You are convinced that avoiding Stanton like the plague is wise, and I am convinced that meeting it head on, and persi…

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