Prayer is such an important topic, so it’s important that we do it right. We would not want anyone talking to their creator as if he’s their father, or anything gushy like that. We must always approach the throne of grace cautiously, with a great deal of formality, keeping in mind our own superstitions, cultural norms, and rules of men.
- Only pray for Stanton members. God has enough on his hands dealing with our little group, we shouldn’t burden him with requests regarding non-members we don’t even know personally. The only time you can pray for someone NOT in the Stanton Church of Christ is if it’s for their salvation. This means you should not pray for your enemies (real Christians have a lot of them), nor should you pray for the health of sick or dying family members or co-workers. By no means should you offer to pray for the health of non-members in your workplace.
- Don’t hold hands during a prayer. This could give way to lascivious, flirtatious, or other inappropriate behavior while everyone’s eyes are closed. But mostly, it’s just socially uncomfortable in Stanton Churches of Christ. We just don’t do that.
- Don’t lift up your hands in prayer. It’s important not to lift up your hands in prayer (or worship—that would be wholly innappropriate). Stanton is definitley not a handraising church, since we should not want to do things that the denominational world does, even if they are Biblically sanctioned.
- You must say “in Jesus name, amen.” At the end of each prayer, you must say “in Jesus name, amen” for it to be heard by God. This is the only proper formula, much like the Catholic Rosary or other prayer formulas. Do not say “in our Savior’s name,” “in the name of the Lord Jesus,” “in your son’s name,” or any other variation, because your prayer won’t be heard. It’s true that Colossions 3:14 says to do all things in the name of the Lord Jesus—like doing our jobs, camping with our families, or tucking our kids in at night—but of course we only apply this verse to prayer. It’s just easier to make a formula out of it.
- Disrespect others’ prayers. If someone is praying and they aren’t part of the Stanton Church of Christ, you must do one or more of the following:a) Leave the room.
b) Keep your eyes open.
c) Don’t bow your head.
d) Say your own private prayer, making sure to keep your eyes closed until AFTER the sinner’s prayer (no pun intended) is finished. This is the preferred option, in most cases.While there is some latitude in applying this rule, the most important thing is that you can’t give anyone the impression that their prayer was heard by God. You alone must judge their standing before God and the acceptability of their prayer.Note: It’s true that the person who said “we all know that God doesn’t hear the prayers of a sinner” was speaking as an uninspired man to the Pharisees who were trying to trap Jesus. But don’t worry, “we all know” he was right, because it’s self-evident.
- Only call on good rule-keepers to pray publicly. It’s important not to call on someone to pray who is not properly adhering to the rules for attire or the other rules listed below. If you know someone is questioning even one church teaching to see if it’s Biblical, it’s important not to reward them by calling on them for public prayer. That, after all, is the purpose of public prayer—to show how holy the pray-er is, and to show the approval before men of the one calling on him.
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Another excellent article Kevin. Yes, the rules as I remember GP at a May meeting possibly held in March saying that amen closed the prayer was his point anyway. So as I was attending to be with family and observing the worship as a nonmember beginning in January till the first Sunday in May the errors of their rules on prayer were noticed by me. Yes I took notes the failure to say amen on occasion did that nullifiy the prayer that was said. As well when the giving of thanks or asking for God to bless the unleavened bread… Read more »
Thank you Kevin for all the time you take to do this for everyone! I'm probably one of the most excited about finding this blog. I have been on here reading for over 2 years now and just recently started posting. Your writing is spectacular! THANK YOU
Thank you for reading so long and joining in the conversation!
Craig says excellent prayers as far as I am concerned and I have heard them for 20 years. What amazes me as I read this blog am I correct that SCC does not pray for non members and they do not listen to non members.? Does that mean I was wasting my breath asking for them to pray for something or someone? Also when I was asking a friend today to pra y for my family and also some of the rules where is scripture to back it up such as going to. Four year college?
I just realized and saw your article Kevin that answered most of my question. It turns my stomach about the rules on prayer. Another good reason to expose the cult to as many as I can. How can these people be so deceived.
That's a mom. Seriously many men struggle to say a prayer. You do not see that outside of the scoc. Why is that? 1 John 5:16 is one verse that is used not to pray for those who are not members. You do hear it worded when say a family nonmember is prayed for to do so for my sake. 1 John 5:16 is taught being the unrepentant.
Oops yes I remember when GP stressed that a prayer needed to end in Jesus name as well. Do we see examples of this in scripture. Matthew 6 when Jesus taught to pray in this manner he did close with amen but not in his own name. So ending with in my saviors name. Or anything else is forbidden other than Jesus. Is ending with Christ okay. Wow they make things confusing. It should be easy. Yes ending in Jesus name is simple and all good but is it a command from God is my question? Or from GP?
The decision on ending the prayer right LOL What a mess their minds must be always having to think so hard. Just like the number of times on the breaking of the bread LOL I'm sure God is going to really grumble over all that. Spend the time with more important things in life! I'm so glad I don't have to deal with this madness anymore.
On the ending of a prayer, there is no Biblical authority that we have to end a prayer in a specific way, and it's ludicrous on its face. We don't draw near to God through formula phrases or rote repetitions, but through heartfelt communication with him. Colossians 3:17 says to do *all things* in the name of the Lord Jesus. So if we're going to be completely literal in applying Stanton's teaching, we'd have to say "in Jesus name" after everything we do—like going camping with the family, or doing our jobs, or opening a door for a stranger at… Read more »
Does God hear us WHILE we pray?According to the rules of prayer, the answer would be NO.I am puzzled by something…Since a prayer isn't heard unless it's last couple of words are uttered correctly, what happens to the prayer while it is being said? Is it put into a special 'prayer holding tank' and then delivered to God upon final 'in Jesus name' approval? If that's the case, maybe we should START our prayers by saying, 'Father, the prayer Thou art about to receive is being brought to Thee in the name of Jesus (did you notice I added 'Thee'… Read more »
Anon 10:49, you are correct. In fact, if we are to understand the verse "pray without ceasing" literally, then some prayers don't have beginnings or ends…as you say, they are a continual attitude of prayer to God throughout the day.
Kevin, I'm pretty sure the girl with "indiscreet" jeans in your header photo would automatically have her prayer disqualified. Shame on you! 😉
Prayers for nonmember family you'd just keep private. At least that's what I'd do. Also was reproved for a common prayer request or when I'd say the public prayer at classes for the children's protection in the schools. This was asked mostly by me or on occasion by another. I was told unless something serious is happening don't request it all the time because it could cause the children to fear. I'd in the same manner ask for prayers or say them for a member who was in prison. I asked did your reasoning apply in this situation too. Was… Read more »
It sounds to me, from the many comments over many years since this blog opened up, that many members have lived in quiet disobedience to Stanton's rules, whether prayer rules, or rules for parenting, travel, etc. Those who are still doing so, I'd like to understand better why you're still there. Please comment!
The member I Know, that is still a member, before I became a member used to tell me not to bother to pray because God didn't hear a sinner's prayers
Kevin, I know first hand 2 members reading this blog and are only in the church still because of family.. and then those members also told me that there are members doing what they want regardless.. But it will never be learned by the church and I love it
Kevin, I believe that EVERY member of the Stanton churches has at least one area of quiet disobedience. You figure you will never be "perfect", so why give up the areas you want to keep. Men preach when they are not convicted on the "rules". I believe too, that many justify their rule breaking, then go on to justify SIN. It's all a game to be held in esteem of men. Because their desire is to please MAN rather than God, their self examination is extremely skewed. It's about what you can get away with- not about being pure in… Read more »
Donna, I appreciate your unique perspective. Many readers here left the sect long before finding this blog. Others are still in, struggling to break free of thrir grasp.
But it's been a blessing to see your life being transformed from the spiritual bondage within the sect and the struggle to get out, to the freedom in Christ that is only found through a real relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.
Praise God you are now free to serve God without man-made chains holding you back!
Kevin, in response to your question posted above, 'I'd like to understand better why you're still there.'
For me, I am still here because of family. Wouldn't it be ironic if my other family members are here because of family and we all disagree with the rules but won't breathe a word because of the constant threat of withdrawal.
Anon 11:20, yes, and you can't even talk about your opinions to have the benefit of brotherly discussion without the fear of withdrawal. The best marriages are founded on a shared devotion to Jesus Christ. But when you can't even talk about the scriptures with your spouse out of fear of withdrawal, what kind of marriage is that?
What kind of marriage is that? Answer: a loveless marriage. The inability to establish intimacy with your life companion leads directly to couples who do not talk to each other. The husband may be the head of the household but every decision the husband makes has to be approved by the local leaders or the husband is told to back off, and this is in every area of married life not just spiritual. The husband is only the man of his house, if he is in good graces with local leaders. It is reminiscent of Stalin Russia where every one… Read more »
I cannot believe this. You are not allowed to discuss the sermon or anything about your preacher and how he gave the sermon to your spouse or children? What all about the tattle tales that appear to go on a daily basis in the SCC? What is the point of going to church?Good grief how can you have an open honest relationship with anyone in your own immediate family? This is emotional abuse of the worst kind.
Anon 11:55, you obviously can't have an open honest relationship if you are both members. If a husband wonders about a teaching heard at church and mentions that to his wife on the way home, his wife can report that back to the teacher and he can be withdrawn from for murmuring. And yes, it's very abusive and will destroy any attempt to have a Christ-centered relationship. That's pretty much how my parents' marriage was destroyed. They stayed together, but they were not a spiritual union anymore. My dad disagreed with Merie on an interpretation of a verse (Romans 8:11).… Read more »
You are correct Kevin unless their doctrine has changed such as watching you tube videos and child of the preacher actually making you tube videos. Two of my kids involved in that as well which does not bother me one bit. Actually a member of Portland had made family you tube videos a few years back. So maybe that doctrine changed. With prayer 1 Timothy 2:8 I will therefore that men everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. My understanding is this is literally lifting up your holy hands. Correct me if I'm wrong. I was told they… Read more »
I once asked my mom why the church refuses to sing "When the saints go marching in," which is entirely scriptural. Her answer was that it was popularized by a secular artist (I think Elvis), and the church shouldn't do things that "the world" does. Of course, this is ludicrously bad reasoning. But that's what Merie taught.
Such as the Evangelist's wife having a Facebook. No you tube videos? How would we ever learn if we didn't have those do it yourself videos LOL I had a current member send me worldly songs for awhile. The preachers and teachers do alot of things that members are told are not appropriate.
Absolutely like having a device for there computer that turns it into literally a tv. Haven't seen it but have been told. Being told by DS that my son shouldn't put lines in his hair yet the preachers son continued to do so as well as others. Told by the preacher one line was okay don't know what DS would think not that I'd care.
Interesting conversations and remarks that prove what a joke SCC is even for those that are members. The world is all around us and we as Christians have to make choices every day and not huddle together in a small group and call it a church. No wonder our teens break out of church as soon as they are young adults. I am surprised when I think about it SCC let their children go to public school at all. I am not a member but a concerned Christian looking in at this blog after I was told about it. God… Read more »
Good point anon 9:25 I wondered that as well about the public schools. A teacher that is not s teacher any longer talked so bad about public schools that it out fear in me to put my last three children into the public school system. And when I did thus the reason for the frequent public prayer request. It was this teachers opinion that should not of been voiced. Turns out later hearing from TC is you want your children in the school system and you'd only take them out to home school them for specific reasons I'm sure all… Read more »
It's interesting you bring up homeschooling. I've also wondered why the church hasn't encouraged homeschooling, but the real reason is that the public schools babysit their kids, freeing them up to do more church work and attend more daytime church functions. This is so backwards. My family is what God has entrusted to me first and foremost. Attending a Bible class, while a great thing to do, is clearly further down on the list of family priorities. We all have the same 24 hours in a day. Either we spend that on raising good adults, or we spend it recruiting… Read more »
I know some wonderful school teachers and many azure Christians and we have four in our family. I think sometimes groups get a bad rap so to speak by labeling the entire group such as Teachers, Policemen, Christians, Catholics etc. sure there are some goofy people in all these groups but not all by all means. Personally I refrain for the most part from labeling. I am not perfect by a long shot and slip up but am always working on it. One for example would be perverts or sexual predator. I have a difficult time with anyone or any… Read more »
Sorry should have proof read better. The word is are not azure and no ?? with teenagers. Thank you.
Jo, I was in no way meaning to imply that school teachers are not excellent. In many cases, their hands are tied by administration, politics, and just bad parenting in their students' homes. I think public school teaching is an honorable profession for Christian teachers, but it is a place of ministry, not necessarily a place I'd opt to send my kids anymore. Everyone has to make that judgment call for themselves. For my family, the risks are just too high for influencing my kids negatively.
No worries! I did not think that at all and was not writing to you but to the blog. I know I sometimes come from a different school of thought because of my background working in public service for many many years and seeing so much diversity as well as pain and good in people in all walks of life. I was very active in so many things all types of people both at work and in our personal lives. It makes me sad when I read how sheltered so many members are because all they do is go to… Read more »
My wife loved home schooling our children. TC counseled to put them in school so we did. The teacher in Portland that was anti public school should've never of taught her opinion. Just goes to show you the lack of unity in the scoc. Point it should be each famalies decision rather or not to home school. I know other famalies that did as well.
Craig, what reasons did TC give to put your kids back in school?
Anon 3:40 a preparation for life. That is from my notes I took. Rest is from memory so maybe not exact words but same affect. TC correct me if I miss something. You take them out of school if their is a need to. Home school them and fix the problem and put them back into school. That sounds like what I heard the morning of May 16, 2015.
Craig, I sure hope your wife can eventually see some of what is going on. I had to giggle about how many lines they can put in their hair. I used to live with a person who used to be a preacher. There's many many things that are secret and hidden. One of the reasons they do not want people church-hopping is because the teachings are different. Therefore that causes problems. When I was in the church I had different teachers and preachers teaching me totally opposite things.
The female teacher in Portland seemed to never like anything. From what I gather from this blog is that she is not teaching now. She seemed (in my eyes) to have alot of hatred. She used to mumble to herself alot too and always spewing off meanness! I was like "wow you must be a miserable person" (to myself)
This just points out the reality that there really is no unity—it is unity in name only. If the Holy Spirit were acually operating the way they say he does, he would give them "unity" (guiding them literally into a unanimous understanding of the truth) without the need to confer with one another in May Meetings or any other time. Instead, it's quite apparent that despite all their best efforts to control everyone's beliefs, their opinions are as diverse as the rest of the religous world's.
Anon 3:37 interesting concerning the church hopping. I know when members would relocate due to helping another congregation for whatever reason their would be times either the congregation or the one relocating would be exposed for something. I longed for the day that someone would relocate to Portland to expose what was taking place.
TO Craig and all: Just another interesting take on relocating…We were at the opposite end of it. We were asked to move from Lakeland, Fl to go and be the two white people in Albany. Apparently when the teachers in Albany, GA had to move, it meant the congregation would be filled with only Blacks/African Americans. So we were asked to move.The only problem was, my husband didn't have custody of his daughter at the time. This meant we would have to move away and leave her behind. We studied this, and prayed and decided that we wouldn't leave her.… Read more »
I can guarantee you GP would never get off his butt with his wife and go to a different Church.. I can't see them leaving all their family in California.. These people are sick in the head and they don't even realize that is the sad part
Thanks for sharing, Debby. Every time I hear that, I just can't understand the hardened heart of someone counseling you guys to leave your ten year old daughter behind without her dad. And in the name of God, no less. Beyond disturbing.
You also hit the nail on the head, Debby, when you mentioned the proper priority of God > Family. The reason this group is so devastating to the family unit is because they confuse God as a priority with the church as a priority. To them, it's the same thing. That is why I say this group practices a form of idolatry, setting up their fellowship of fallible humans, with all of their fallible rules and doctrines of men, in the place of God himself. This is all due to their confusion of church & God. It is what I… Read more »
Good Morning! Reading the posts above especially Kevin 7:50 explains it exactly. Churchianity above all else. School events,family events,employment and everything. We are on a short business trip/vacation and guess what God is here with us. I have done my devotions the same as if I were back home. I ask no one for permission what to wear or eat today and asked no one permission to go in vacation. We saved our money for it and I can't imagine in my wildest dreams living this SCC way.
Jo and anyone else wondering how we can possibly live the SCC way…It's like this; you get slowly sucked in and you get used to it. By the time a convert realizes that their teacher might not be the mouthpiece of God like they were lead to believe they have seen enough and heard enough to know the dire consequences of questioning their teachers counsel and judgments. They can't voice a word of dissent to a fellow christian, not even a spouse, for fear of being withdrawn from. Withdrawal is nothing to scoff at because it can last a lifetime.… Read more »
Anon 12:48, I do understand how it can be a difficult decision. Just understand that the difficulty is by design, because of the relationship consequences they put into place for members and ex-members. So the truth is, if you see the errors and want to leave, but stay because of relationships, I'm not judging for that—but the honest truth is that you're being manipulated into staying. That may be OK if it is willing and with an intent to save someone within the group. So again, I'm not judging anyone who decides to stay for a time. But I do… Read more »
Anon 3:43 if the teacher you are referring to is the one that preceded the present teacher I agree.
re-Craig CusickJuly 19, 2017 at 7:18 PM
There were two preachers that moved to Tacoma to deal with the lack of there and not only did it not get better it go worse with the second one.
Lynn, who makes the decisions who moves where is the problem. No leadership. Ones have moved to help other congregations only to be sent back where they came from. This is the one and only true church whom claim the Holy Spirit is working on there behalf????
Craig, she was the one teaching about 8 to 9 years ago
A person currently in the church told me that you are supposed to love God more than your own children.. that's why I say these type of people have no understanding of true love or have never got up and done the deed themselves.. And then they say we are the evil ones..
Anon 9:41 yep she gave me horrible counsel that I followed most likely going against my conscience in doing so. Also taught her opinion on somethings that turned out being wrong. Put up by who to be s teacher? Has the Holy Spirit? One and only true church? Don't we see a pattern here throughout this blog. And they have the tenacity to put down other religions for there ugliness and wrong doings. Imagine how this cult would be if they had a large following. Scary.
I actually do think we are to love God more than our spouse and children…but not at all in the way they think. My love for God teaches me to be the leader of my home and take personal responsibility for my kids. So if the church interferes with a responsibility God gave directly to me, you better believe my kids come before any church, church rules, or counsel from fallible human beings. I won't have the excuse when I stand before God of saying "but my teacher told me to!"
Great points Kevin. You love God first all else will fall in line properly. I know there were times I should've been in the home rather than knocking on doors. Save your own first should be an easy concept to follow. Actually we had one who hadn't partaken in years knocking on doors teaching the lost. Yet in the scoc mind these members were bound for hell if they'd died right then. Just as if you had not partaken that Sunday. I'm talking years without. So you are at the doors teaching hypocritically you need to repent when these members… Read more »
Craig, yes she gave her opinon on things to me trying to make them rules for me.. When the other church was completely opposite.. She was just such a miserable person inside… I was doing something that I knew Marie used to do and when I brought this up to her when she didn't want me doing it she just shook her head and said we don't know why Merie did a lot of the things she did.. But I ignored it and went by another churches teaching.. It was because of her and the preacher I left.. they wanted… Read more »
Kevin I agree with what you are saying on 10:57 comment. I know both my son and daughter in law love their family. There is no doubt in my mind but too much church and church activities will not get you to Heaven any faster. I have seen this happen in "worldly" churches as they call them where the pastor or pastors family get burned out and takes a toll on their health. I know of four pastors this happened to in my home church over the years. It is really a full time job to be a pastor. Thanks… Read more »
Jo, you're exactly right. Church ≠ God. That is idolatry both in and out of the Stanton sect.
My comment at 5:27 that's not the correct date. It was in 2013 before the May meeting in Boise. Sorry about that. Anon 3:37 she will only see if she opens her eyes and ears. Funny she'll show her loyalty to this being nice Portland preacher above her own husband who has lied about nothing. Yet I know she thinks it's loyalty to God. Yes hair fashion is something that bothers some I guess. The lines were nothing extreme at all. The Portland preacher told me he questioned spiked hair. Some other preachers spiked there hair as well as other… Read more »
Craig, that preacher is very good at tossing people under the bus no matter who he hurts
Anon 7:28 you would not believe how many of his own members, members in Tacoma, others in other places and even nonmember spouses I've heard put in a bad light by this horrible example of a person period. I have a lot of those conversations right at the tip of my tongue. Shame on me for not putting him in his place and giving ear to his murmuring.
How many prayers and how much support is there going up and for those in Texas concerning the impact of hurricane Harvey from those in Merie's cult? Hmm?
Good question! I have never heard of this cult really helping others except within the cult. Am I right?
Last I knew, they don't pray for the health of non-members. Like what's it going to hurt? Can God only listen to so many requests at a time, and they don't want to burden him with having to say no? Why not ask, and let an infinitely good God make the call how to answer? Lol
A member of this church once told me that God will never give you more than we can handle.. But if you look that verse up that is not what it says.. It says he will never give you more Temptations than what you can handle or get away from . I am so tired of seeing this saying all the time from people.. It shows that people really don't understand what the Bible is truly saying.. just like their appearance of evil saying where a female and male should not ride in the same vehicle together.. What are they… Read more »
I have a thought who ever made up that rule probably had the wrong intentions himself with some one riding in his car. Just like a thief doesn't really trust anyone thinking that other person may steal from home or her. It is their twisted minds why these rules are made up!
Him or her
Not allowed to step into a married woman's home if hubby is not there or a single woman's home either
Anon 6:19 good point. The understanding with appearance of evil with this cult handcuffs these people from there God given liberties. Kevin addresses appearance of evil with another topic and it was spot on and so simple to understand. If you ever heard discussions on appearance of evil in a class it would cause your head to spin. Talk about making the word of God confusing. This cults leaders are masters at it. Personal work who can and can't ride with who. This one is married that one is not. To close to age to young in the cult. Is… Read more »
But yet Sweet Merie went over to her x husbands house and hung out after she divorced him..cooked for him etc.. This is all very true too…
Simply said Merie was a hypocrite.
I remember a couple years ago a young single worked at the same place as a married Christian. His car broke n for a while he rode the bus. One day it rained super hard. She shared how hard it was for her to decide if she should offer him a ride as he sat there soaking wet at the stop. I don't think she did but not sure. Regardless, the fact that one would have to be in the position where you're not sure if you can help a brother in need is ridiculous. Obviously the whole thing bothered… Read more »
As somebody said before.. No wonder all these members have so many health problems.. Could you imagine constantly worrying about your life and every move you make.. So here yet I say again.. What gives a person so much fear that they will disown their own family and do these crazy things.. Because I don't have the fear of hell like these people.. I never did when I went in and I never did when I left
I'm happy to give it a shot if you'd like. You can email me using the info in the sidebar.
Anon 7:35. I am doing my part as a Mother and Grandmother telling as many people as I can about it and keeping up with it. Just last night I met a new neighbor and visited with her on the porch. She talked a lot about her church which is Church of Christ Restored (never heard of it) and I ask her about this one and she said she never heard of it. The three family members I still have in there make me worry as no sign yet to me they are approachable. Will continue looking for an opening… Read more »
Jo, good for you! Kevin, since you and I have already talked I will send you an e-mail today or tomorrow letting you know the situation. And if you decide not to do it it's perfectly fine (once you find out the information) Thank you!
It takes a wedge to split a log. One topic that needs to be studied out and understood is sleep deprivation. Cults use sleep deprivation as a method of control. The SCOC taught at one point that getting more than four hours sleep was being carnal and members use to call each other up and make sure they were not sleeping to much. Another sleep deprivation teaching was to follow the example of the federal employee in Stanton who got only five hours sleep a night, but when I stayed at his house for a meeting he got 8 hour… Read more »
A reference book is Elmer Gantry by Sinclair Lewis. Written in 1926 it is an expose of hypocrisy at it's worse. The tow truck preacher is a classic "Elmer Gantry" type preacher.
Should say "Sleep deprivation does strange things to the human mind and it's destructive effects are quite predictable"
A doctrine of cults is to isolate the new member from all outside influences. This is done by criticism of all outside values. I always wondered why during my first few weeks in the church every experience I spoke of was criticized indirectly. I told one man how the military used soy protein instead of real protein in their meat because it was healthier. The cult leader next bible class taught that it was similar to 1 Timothy 4:3 where doctrines of Devils forbid to eat meat. This criticism was wildly out of context but I did not know it… Read more »
One of the first duties given to new recruits of a cult is that of recruitment. It consolidates a new recruits beliefs while it inflates the cults membership. How long where you a member before you were encourages to go out on the "personal work?" What effect did personal work have on your belief in the "group?" There is a method to their madness, the SCOC know hows to indoctrinate new members without them realizing it. Cults keep members unaware that there is an agenda to change them.
What I find funny is they want nothing to do with the world but yet they mark people on how if they are crazy etc etc if they do certain things.. Wonder where their professional pole is that they seem to have taken to have this wonderful knowledge that they claim they have. LOL LOL just slap me
I wonder if they will participate in National Day of Prayer today.
Ha ha no. Though they will pray.
Such a beautiful service today about emotions and how some people have never been able to truly express their emotions. Of course you know what I thought of immediately. Stanton Cult. I read somewhere about frozen emotions on this blog and I have seen it with my own eyes. We had such beautiful music today traditional hymns with flute,piano and violin. How refreshing! I pray the people living under this church get out and learn how to live with the Joy of the Lord in their hearts.
Excuse me for calling it a church. I mean cult,
It was a beautiful day today. The lesson this week was from proverbs 6 about debt. Surety is a synonym for debt and Solomon warns to get out of debt as soon as possible. Proverbs 22:7 says the borrower is servant to the lender, debt is like slavery, it binds you down. Then in the New testament Christ equates debt with sin when he says in Matthew 6:12 forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors. Everything you can admonish about staying out of debt applies equally to staying out of sin.
Jude 3 says to earnestly contend for your faith. As I began to challenge the hypocrite preacher in Portland concerning matters. One how he put his business above the concern for the congregation in Portland. Obvious to me as I have the examples that I saw of a weak leader yet the dictators of this cult for some reason never sent help. The two paid preachers masquerading as evangelists still have not visited Portland in now over 8 years. Now as I challenge this cult to answer legit questions will they earnestly contend for there faith?
They will never help.. They can't leave their families… But expect everyone else to do it.. Sad.. I'm sure his business is his top and foremost.. Maybe he should kick back and live off nothing like alot of other members do and are told to do.. He's got more than most and the church comes second to him