Not sure if you’re right with God? Here are six easy tips to measure your relationship with God and know that you’re going to heaven:
- Keep perfect church attendance. This is definitely one of the most important measurements of your spiritual status. Attend. Every. Service. Don’t be like those really bad people who “fall back unto perdition” and stay home when they are sick, or their spouse or child is sick.
- Attend more nonmember classes. This is a really easy tip if you want to get ahead in your “relationship” with God. God wants more converts. Obviously, showing your commitment to attending a class to recruit new converts is exactly what God wants you to be doing. Don’t question it, even if it causes problems in your relationships at home. Just. Do. It.
- Add on ladies’ class attendance. Men rarely have an opportunity to show their relationship with God in the Stanton COC unless they preach, but women have all sorts of opportunities. The formula here is simple: Attend every ladies’ class. Do it religiously. You’ll be rewarded in this life with kudos from teachers, and I guarantee you’ll feel much closer to God.
- Don’t take the Lord’s Supper. Whaaa? I know, that sounds counterintuitive. But every so often, you should pass on the Lord’s Supper just to show other people how humble you are. Just don’t overdo it. Try to make sure you don’t pass the Lord’s Supper more than once every couple of months, so people don’t start thinking you’re backsliding. Remember, what men think is far more important than what God knows. And if you’re female, MAKE SURE you don’t verbally say “no” to the man passing the Lord’s Supper. You can’t even shake your head. Just stare blankly at the back of the head of the person in front of you, and you’re good.
- Make profound comments in Bible studies. It’s important to show that you actually studied for the topic before arriving. It’s possible to fake this if you arrive just a few minutes early and flip through your notes from last week in the car, but it won’t be quite as convincing. We recommend taking at least 15 minutes during the week to think of some unique angle others may not have thought of.
- Don’t outshine the Teacher. This is really important, especially when it comes to making comments in class. It’s important to NOT make comments that are more profound or memorable than ones the Teacher has made. If you do that, it’s game over for your spirituality. If anyone comes up to you in front of the Teacher and says they really appreciated your comments, and doesn’t lavish the same praise on your Teacher…frankly, you’re toast. You’ve become a target for future oppression from the teacher. It’s just best to be very cautious about this sort of thing.
OK, seriously, though. I’ve had these questions posed to me before, in so many words. How do Christians measure their relationship with God, and how do we measure others’ relationships with God? Frankly, these are questions that all good legalists (of which I was was chief) are plagued by. How do I know I’m saved? How do I know that my brother/teacher/preacher/evangelist is saved? Better yet, how do I know my brother is saved? My wife? My preacher?
Maybe you’ve asked questions similar to this as well. How do you know you “have God?” And what does that even mean? Can you know, objectively, if some someone else “has God?” Maybe more important than all these questions is, how does God himself measure our relationship with Him?
Church attendance? Nope. That is what I call Churchianity. Social status? I mean, aren’t the teachers and preachers the most godly people in the congregation? OK, maybe not. Well, how about by good works, then? Maybe those who do the most praiseworthy things for their brothers and sisters, like bringing people food when they’re sick; maybe these people have the best relationship with God. Nope. That apparently only count if the sick person is a teacher or preacher, or has a high enough social status to grant some public praise in Bible class.
I know—how about doing foster care or adoption? Surely that will earn me points. There has to be one of these many things that will prove to everyone—maybe to even myself—that I have God. Yeah; n0, no, and no. Not at all. There’s literally (all of my kids will say: “and figuratively?”) nothing you or I can do to “earn” our way into a relationship with the God of Heaven and Earth, or even to objectively prove it to someone else.
Only God knows the hearts of men, after all. And we have a hard enough time knowing our own hearts. Amiright?
1 Samuel 16:7 – But the LORD said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at the height of his stature, because I have rejected him; for God sees not as man sees, for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.”
I’m just not interested in being a Pharisee. Am I one sometimes? Maybe. I hope not, but I won’t deny that urge in me to measure and judge other people. But I really don’t want to measure my relationship with God (or others’ relationships with God) by humanly measurable metrics, as the Pharisees in Jesus’s time did. That’s why I relish conversations with nonbelievers, enjoy interacting with those who have rejected Christianity, and want foster kids, who have been deeply hurt by their parents, in my home. I am more invested in a person’s future than their past, and I think that instinct is from God. I didn’t always have it. I learned it from the life of Jesus (post-Stanton).
Outwardly visible behaviors do not tell the whole story, and make the “story” way too easy to fake. There are some foster parents who are jerks. There are some Christians who are fools. Pretty much all “Christian” televangelists are frauds, IMO. 🙂 It’s so easy to put a little lipstick on the pig, and make ourself look like the best person who ever lived. “Live your best life,” and stuff.
Here’s the real way to measure our relationship with God. Let’s boil this all down to one thing: Have we internalized Jesus’s teachings? That’s it. Period. End of story. Are we letting the Spirit change our hearts, and is the fruit of that changed heart causing us to live like Jesus did? Those are the only questions we need to ask when measuring our relationship with God.
How many neighbors of serial killers have said the words “I just never would have guessed; he was the nicest guy.” That’s because everyone around them was judging by outward appearances. But God judges the heart. And we need to be better judges of our hearts.
Measuring our spiritual relationship with God via outwardly visible score cards is simply not possible. As the Christian singer Chris Rice wrote, we can’t smell the number nine. You simply can’t measure someone’s relationship with God by the five senses. Evil actions might rule someone out of the Kingdom (if unrepented of, at least), but good actions certainly don’t give us a free ticket to ride on the J-Train. And frankly, attaining Heaven should not be what Christianity is all about, anyway. But that’s a topic for another post. Forgive me for leaving you hanging on that one. 🙂
So, if there are no requirements, there is no point in having church. Just do what you feel like. Perfect! Just like Cain, and we know how that ended up. I’m not saying straining at gnats is good, but neither is anarchy. #6 is right on. You simply must not outshine your teacher in Stanton, or your longevity in the group will be affected, and not positively either. It is not Pharisaism to obey God. Abel was not a Pharisee. Neither was Paul. Yet, the latter observed the Bible, and habitually met with other Christians, as they were able. The… Read more »
“So, if there are no requirements, there is no point in having church.” Really? A church is just a gathering of followers of Jesus Christ. Depending on the demographics, some churches may be more spiritually knowledgable than others. But that does not make them not a church.
Where in the New Testament are individuals commanded to follow a class and personal work schedule which includes Sunday morning Bible class; Sunday afternoon fellowship; Sunday night class; midweek class; two days/evenings of personal work for men and one day/evening for married ladies and two for single ladies; nonmember class (many congregations); ladies class; once a month Friday meeting (many congregations). Where does it say that men should quit their job if for any reason they are required to work during one of those appointed times; even if they have to miss a class one time every six months. What… Read more »
I don’t recall Kevin ever suggesting that we throw aside His Law with reckless abandon. He seems to be suggesting that we throw aside the laws of men (opinions) and live a life of freedom in Christ; that we stop measuring our spiritual relationship and the spiritual relationship of others via outwardly visible scorecards. Internalizing the teachings of Jesus… now that’s a tall order. We need to judge our hearts and not with the measuring stick of how our attendance card looks. Most churches don’t have mandatory attendance but yet they manage to still have classes and meetings. People go… Read more »
Well said Striped Fish. You know members are disgruntled with keeping a mandatory schedule when they show even some subtle excitement when personal work, class or even on one occasion in Portland worship was canceled due to extreme weather conditions.
In Tacoma, it has even caused class schedules to be rearranged because of all of the classes and personal work actually interfering in their lives. It was impeding on the workings of how households needed to be run with jobs, children, schools, keeping with the maintaining of the homes, etc. In my personal assessment, I believe this, also, contributed to brethren reaching out to those in the congregation in need. There was just to much on their plates of physically on the go.
Striped Fish, you nailed it. This is a hard concept to grasp when you come from the legalistic mindset, which is why the Pharisees so often misunderstood Jesus’ teachings. All they knew was lawkeeping by outwardly measurable scorecards as a proxy for righteousness. To the legalist, saying the Greatest Commands are the primary doctrine of Christ seems like it’s just way too easy to be true. Surely there has to be more than “just” that. But for someone who is actually internalizing Jesus’ teachings and changing his heart, you know that it is way harder to do than merely tally… Read more »
There are requirements, just like this says, “Have we internalized Jesus’s teachings?” 1 John 3:14-15 14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. Romans 13:8-9 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false… Read more »
44 For I am the Lord your God. You must consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I am holy. So do not defile yourselves with any of these small animals that scurry along the ground.
45 For I, the Lord, am the one who brought you up from the land of Egypt, that I might be your God. Therefore, you must be holy because I am holy.
46 “These are the instructions regarding land animals, birds, marine creatures, and animals that scurry along the ground.
47 By these instructions you will know what is unclean and clean, and which animals may be eaten and which may not be eaten.”
12 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Give the following instructions to the people of Israel. If a woman becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son, she will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her menstrual period.
3 On the eighth day the boy’s foreskin must be circumcised.
4 After waiting thirty-three days, she will be purified from the bleeding of childbirth. During this time of purification, she must not touch anything that is set apart as holy. And she must not enter the sanctuary until her time of purification is over.
5 If a woman gives birth to a daughter, she will be ceremonially unclean for two weeks, just as she is unclean during her menstrual period. After waiting sixty-six days, she will be purified from the bleeding of childbirth.
6 “When the time of purification is completed for either a son or a daughter, the woman must bring a one-year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or turtledove for a purification offering. She must bring her offerings to the priest at the entrance of the Tabernacle.[
7 The priest will then present them to the Lord to purify her.[b] Then she will be ceremonially clean again after her bleeding at childbirth. These are the instructions for a woman after the birth of a son or a daughter.
8 “If a woman cannot afford to bring a lamb, she must bring two turtledoves or two young pigeons. One will be for the burnt offering and the other for the purification offering. The priest will sacrifice them to purify her, and she will be ceremonially clean.”
13 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, 2 “If anyone has a swelling or a rash or discolored skin that might develop into a serious skin disease, that person must be brought to Aaron the priest or to one of his sons.
3 The priest will examine the affected area of the skin. If the hair in the affected area has turned white and the problem appears to be more than skin-deep, it is a serious skin disease, and the priest who examines it must pronounce the person ceremonially unclean.
4 “But if the affected area of the skin is only a white discoloration and does not appear to be more than skin-deep, and if the hair on the spot has not turned white, the priest will quarantine the person for seven days.
5 On the seventh day the priest will make another examination. If he finds the affected area has not changed and the problem has not spread on the skin, the priest will quarantine the person for seven more days.
6 On the seventh day the priest will make another examination. If he finds the affected area has faded and has not spread, the priest will pronounce the person ceremonially clean. It was only a rash. The person’s clothing must be washed, and the person will be ceremonially clean.
7 But if the rash continues to spread after the person has been examined by the priest and has been pronounced clean, the infected person must return to be examined again.
8 If the priest finds that the rash has spread, he must pronounce the person ceremonially unclean, for it is indeed a skin disease.
9 “Anyone who develops a serious skin disease must go to the priest for an examination
10 If the priest finds a white swelling on the skin, and some hair on the spot has turned white, and there is an open sore in the affected area,
“The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.”
– Herbert Spencer
And so many are brainwashed by media and Schools, all controlled by Jews, we have a nation filled with fools, unfortunately, including our friend the Leviticus quoter.
The poor woman can’t use logic and so she’s babbling Leviticus to try to silence ideas she can’t comprehend.
Matthew 13
Q5) “For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.”
This is the first time we’ve seen such childish behavior on this website, and no surprise, it comes from the first outspoken woman. Having the liberty to post on any topic, she decides her mission on here is to tell me what I can talk about. This isn’t strange, because the women teachers in Stanton have been doing this for five decades. Refusing to obey God themselves, they instead insist on teaching grown men on topics the women don’t understand. She’s been throwing a temper tantrum for a number of weeks, and has posted 500+ comments, as she does each… Read more »
A few facts. 1)In 1960, America was 90% White. 2) Whites never voted to become a minority in their own nation. 3) Without welfare and bogus affirmative action, Latinos and Blacks could not have survived in America. Both communities have disproportionate numbers on welfare. 4) To normalize this program, the violent crime, murder, and rape rates by race are hidden for nearly all cities. If we had ready access to this information, we’d soon realize that Blacks have wildly higher rates of these crimes than other races, followed by Latinos. Next come Whites, next come Asians. 5) From 1776-1965 you… Read more »
Funny how no one has a problem with Africa being 99% Black, or India being 99% Indian, or China being 99% Chinese, or Japan being 99% Japanese. But, when you say you’d like America, Europe, Australia, and Canada to be the 90%+ White they were in 1960, you suddenly get called a “racist,” and “hateful.” Why is that? Was it accidental that the White population of America went from 90% to 57% today? No. Was there a wicked group with evil intentions behind it? Yes. Do Jews truly love non-Whites that they promote with their media? They sure don’t, look… Read more »
Hopefully the problems the Jews have caused in America with race, for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering themselves, can be resolved peacefully. But, so deep is the brainwashing, that appears unlikely. People who cannot win with arguments frequently resort to bullying, intimidation, and violence, and we are seeing the beginning stages of this here. A woman who can’t win with arguments is seeking to drown out anything I say, which is a couple of steps away from violence. Once a man cannot speak, the next step Is violence against him. So, ironically, the woman who says she is… Read more »