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2 January

A public confession

By Kevin|2019-08-30T12:41:16-06:00January 2nd, 2015|Uncategorized|21 Comments

I have a public confession to make. I believe the church's practice of public confession, and all its associated rules, are simply more assumptions which have been mistakenly inferred and bound by men, not by the Bible. These manmade rules include: A weekly time of public confession. Private sins confessed before public ones A confession must be as public as the sin was Must stand for public confession A prayer must be offered after said period of public confession asking for the forgiveness of the people who confessed. You can't take the Lord's Supper if there is "sin on your soul" as a result of not confessing a "public sin" publicly If any one of these rules is violated, your sins are not forgiven. Start [...]

23 April

Matthew 5 – Rules and Regulations For The Church

By Kevin|2019-04-11T02:09:27-06:00April 23rd, 2014|Uncategorized|1 Comment

One passage of scripture in Matthew 5 has been substantially misinterpreted by the Stanton churches, in my opinion, and I think it will be useful to provide an alternative point of view here. Matthew 5:23-24 - Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you, 24 leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to them; then come and offer your gift. Stanton teaches that one must "take care of sin" (meaning confess it privately and/or publicly) prior to partaking in the Lord's supper based partly on this passage, and partly on their out-of-context teaching about taking the Lord's supper unworthily. The passage in question was [...]

9 September

Rules for the Lord’s supper

By Kevin|2019-04-11T02:09:00-06:00September 9th, 2013|Uncategorized|19 Comments

Many rules have been developed for the Lord's supper over the years, some applying to the participants, and some to the one presiding over it. One of the biggest interpretational mistakes the church makes is believing that one must be "worthy" (i.e. "sinless") to participate in the Lord's supper. This comes from taking 1 Cor 11:27 wildly out of context: 1 Corinthians 11:27 - Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. Notice the word "unworthily" has an "ly" at the end. This makes it an adverb, which modifies a verb. In other words, it is referring to the "manner" in which the Lord's supper is observed: 1 [...]

"This needed to be said Kevin, thank you. I believe you are getting to heart of the problem in the church. Instead of a Christian being allowed to exercise their own conscience, the conscience of a few people living in South Carolina and California is forced upon the entire brotherhood." ~Anonymous

"Great blog, Kevin. I'm originally from Stanton (I remember you being a young boy there). I Spent almost twenty years in the church seeing many of the things you speak about but keeping them in the back of my mind, and doubting my own feelings that something wasn't right.

"This constant gossiping was so confusing because it was OK for teachers to talk about people, but no one else to even question actions of a teacher. Being outside of that influence and away from the constant intimidation, it is so much more clear. There was no love or understanding. I'm sure most, except for the leaders, know something is wrong if they would just be honest with themselves. I regret so much putting my children through this more than I regret putting myself through it.

"I'm just glad I left. No need for being bitter toward anyone because it was my choice to be there and stay there. Keep up the good work." ~Loraine Forshee

I have read every word of this blog… I spent many hours/days reading… Feeling so sick inside… I felt so grateful to find this blog." ~Anonymous

"I left the group because I realized that what the group taught and what God teaches were often-not always-vastly different. I had to make a choice; stay out of fear, obligation, because of relationships, or leave so I could continue to follow Christ. I left. You know, one thing I heard A LOT while in the group is that “fallen away ones” are always longing to come back into the group.” At the time I believed it, but I just haven’t found it to be true! If it were, there would be plenty of people flocking back, and it isn’t happening. I have been in contact with quite a few who have left, and not one of us has thoughts about going back. Ever." ~Debby Stevens

"What’s ironic is that we point these things out to them only for them to ignore, dismiss and scoff at the blog both publicly in talks or sermons, and among themselves in secret. For you leaders and members of the SCOC who still read this blog, it’s one thing to dismiss the dissenters, but when you have people in your own ranks parroting the SAME EXACT PROBLEMS we talk about here (some of whom don’t even read the blog yet they see the same things we do), it may be time to consider your ways instead of having “unity” (conformity) meetings trying to ignore it." ~Advocate for Peace

"I too am a current member in 'good standing' in the church. I read the blog and I know of two other current members who also read it. I am sure you're wondering why in the world I would still be attending after reading all of this. Honestly, I am weak and just don't have the courage to leave because of family members who are still involved. Because of the threat of withdrawal for murmuring it's impossible to ask others what they think of the blog posts and videos. I am sure I will leave someday, I'm just not quite ready." ~Anonymous

"I'm currently a member in "good standing" in the church. I read the blog, even though its frowned upon. I can't begin to tell you how closely the comments and personal testimonies align and match what's happening in the church. You read something here, and it opens your eyes to that behavior now. so that when you see it happening, you instantly think about who it happened to here on this blog, and you know the damage it causing." ~Anonymous

"I’m not giving up on God like they believe I’m lost now. I’m so glad I found this blog. It helped open my eyes to what I was a part of for TOO long." ~Not going back

"Someone told me here just recently that, Gary, do you realize what’s happening, under cover? People are coming out and expressing what it is that they feel, their disdain and contempt for what you believe. I’ve got to know how to respond. And I know how I respond. That’s the basis of this lesson. I refuse. I refuse, to the uttermost of my being to dignify the absurdity of the questions and the challenges in which it is that people will present. What I mean by that is that I will not honor, they are not worthy of my consideration. … [M]y whole estimation was to not give it a nickel’s worth of consideration. But I want to give you what it is how I deal with things like this. How I respond. Because I don’t. I don’t." Gary Preman

Truth Defender on Why I care about politics and cultureConstructive criticism is fine. However, over a decade on here, you have demonstrated a pattern of non-stop criticism, likely what you endured in Stanton. And, the vast majority of your criticism is n…
anonymous on Why I care about politics and cultureThank you for the attention. You post publicly your criticisms of your love interest not realizing that opens the door for everyone else to also criticize her publicly, what a great foundation to a re…
Truth Defender on Why I care about politics and cultureJust received this book, can’t wait to read it. I heard the word “feminism” in a class by a woman sharing, about three times in my whole life in Stanton, once very recently. Unless this insidious evil…
Truth Defender on Why I care about politics and culture170,000,000!!!!!! And that was in 1995, 30 years after the civil rights act of 1965!! It's gotten much worse! Patrick Sheehan,?**! writing for the Sydney Morning Herald, Australia, in 1995, wrote what…
Truth Defender on Why I care about politics and cultureHow incredibly evil!! All of us who opposed masks and vaccines are vindicated, congratulations!! CDC Admits It Faked 99% of COVID Deaths To Scare Public Into Taking Vaccine Newly released data from th…
Truth Defender on Why I care about politics and cultureI was pretty certain, if there was any criticism of my actions, you’d happily search hard to find it. Envy and jealousy simply can never rejoice in another’s good fortune. “Abusive husband” That’s a t…
Anonymous on Why I care about politics and cultureGetting angry over petty things at the outset is a red flag of a future abusive husband. In the initial stage the narcissist is supposed to love bomb their targeted by finding the targets deepest inse…
Truth Defender on Why I care about politics and cultureMost marriages today are a world of hurt, admittedly. However, I control only three areas, my thoughts, my words, and my actions. Other than that, I have no control over anyone else, not even my fianc…
Anonymous on Why I care about politics and cultureYour in for a world of hurt. Women desire to be loved, men desire to be respected. You felt disrespected no doubt and reacted with anger instead of understanding. Your going to be tested and tried in…
Truth Defender on Why I care about politics and cultureVery good, thank you for asking. What God has joined together, no man can break asunder. To find a woman willing to obey God and her husband, who is reasonably attractive, who is willing to homeschool…
Anonymous on Why I care about politics and cultureHow is your courtship going?
Truth Defender on Why I care about politics and cultureHow can a woman learn the role God designed for her in the church and marriage in a church started by Merie, who rebelled against God’s order that women stay silent in the churches? Short answer. They…
Non institutional One cupper on Why I care about politics and cultureAnd he is still apart of the church of Christ but the one he started right?
Anonymous on Why I care about politics and cultureHe is living in Texas and is worshipping in a home with other believers. My advice would be to contact him through his instagram page if you would like more information.
Non institutional One cupper on Why I care about politics and cultureWhere is Joe worshiping
Anonymous on Why I care about politics and cultureFrom my understanding, Joe didn’t start his own sect. About a year after his unscriptural withdrawal he left the Stanton sect which he had been a part of since birth, and he and his family attended a…
Non institutional One cupper on Why I care about politics and cultureDose anyone know besides Joe gautreau if there has been anyone who broke away from stanton and stared teir own sect of churches of christ
Truth Defender on Why I care about politics and cultureHumility, Pride, Love, and Truth. Of these four words, which do you hear most in Stanton? I'd say it's a close contest between love and pride, though in the past, pride won by a lot. Now, pride appear…
Truth Defender on Why I care about politics and cultureThe concept is scriptural, and in accordance with nature's law, IMHO. Good overview by anonymous. Anytime a member of any organization publicly violates the organizations standards, rather than bring…
Anonymous on Why I care about politics and cultureThe reason they do public confessions is to clear themslves of public sins. They believe that a member can sin collectively against every member in their congregation by committing a sin in public. (A…